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| Registered: November 24, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,282 |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | The answer is easy:
Should? - Yes!
Can? - No! "Prosthetic-whatever" is not in the list of allowed credits. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with Silence on all counts. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
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| Registered: July 16, 2010 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 527 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with this too.
The more contributions I do the stricter I become with the interpretation of what’s in and what’s not.
A year ago I’d have say someone credited as the Caterer should get a Make-up credit, as good catering puts a smile on your face, which most people look better with, which is what a lot of make-up is put on for.
That’s a joke by the way, but it’s just a whole lot easier not to have to worry about interpreting things. I add all the ‘extra’ credits I’m interested in (mainly music ones) as Other Custom Roles, which works fine.
Paul | | | | Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it? Guttermouth "Lemon Water". Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally. So I'm an anarchist, deal with it. Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted... | | | | Last edited: by SpikyCactus |
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| Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, that's just damn annoying. I'll have to keep him local if that's the case. But he's credited as Make-up Effects on many other films and that is what he does.
We really need the rules to be updated. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SpikyCactus: Quote:
A year ago I’d have say someone credited as the Caterer should get a Make-up credit, as good catering puts a smile on your face, which most people look better with, which is what a lot of make-up is put on for. This made me  So according to your definition you're a MakeUp-Artist too  | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | | Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero |
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| Registered: July 16, 2010 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 527 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Silence_of_Lambs: Quote:
Quoting SpikyCactus:
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A year ago I’d have say someone credited as the Caterer should get a Make-up credit, as good catering puts a smile on your face, which most people look better with, which is what a lot of make-up is put on for.
This made me
So according to your definition you're a MakeUp-Artist too Why thank you!  A proper job for me at last. Actually I think you can morph just about any credit into a Director if you try hard enough. If we all did this we'd only need this one role, so there'd be no more confusion or disagreements over any crew credit roles as every film would just have a lot of directors. The issues relating to correct spellings, common names, asian names, names with accented or other 'non-standard' letters, duplicate names, capitalisation and ordering would still exist though. Oh well.  Back to the drawing board. Tricky things these databases. | | | | Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it? Guttermouth "Lemon Water". Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally. So I'm an anarchist, deal with it. Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted... |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,819 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GreyHulk: Quote:
Well, that's just damn annoying. I'll have to keep him local if that's the case. But he's credited as Make-up Effects on many other films and that is what he does.
We really need the rules to be updated. Exactly! And, surely, a Prosthetics 'anything' can be described as a functional equivalent of a Make-up Effects 'anything'? Maybe I'm being obtuse, but I don't see the difference. However, if someone can explain the difference between Make-up Effects and Prosthetics to me I'm more than open to have my mind changed. |
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| Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | I believe this is the 'prosthetics' in question.  If it's not 'Make-up Effects' maybe this is what Hugo Weaving really looks like! |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Pantheon: Quote:
surely, a Prosthetics 'anything' can be described as a functional equivalent of a Make-up Effects 'anything'? It sure can. Yes, this is the "functional equivalent" of make-up effects - heck, this is pretty much EXACTLY what "make-up effects" is supposed to track - but the rub is that the rules don't state that "functional equivalents" are allowed. Of course, many users don't care about that and enter it regardless, while others keep it local. No solution in sight, I'm afraid... |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GreyHulk: Quote:
I believe this is the 'prosthetics' in question.
If it's not 'Make-up Effects' maybe this is what Hugo Weaving really looks like! In this case the Prosthetics Designer would have been needed to accomplish this  , wouldn't he? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | The rules state: a direct translation.
A direct translation of Make-up effects = ?
or a direct translation of Prosthetic Designer = ?
or Prosthetics = ?
or Effects = ?
or Makeup = ?
or designer = ?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
The rules state: a direct translation. This is the problem. While Prosthetics Designer is equivalent to the Make-up Designer, and should be listed, there is no way it can be called 'a direct translation'.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,819 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
there is no way it can be called 'a direct translation'. And why is that?  |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Pantheon: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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there is no way it can be called 'a direct translation'.
And why is that? The Martian feels that a "translation" requires two different languages. Of course, this subtlety is lost on most DVD Profiler users, who believe that 'a direct translation' and 'a functional equivalent' is pretty much the same thing... |
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