This is regarding
http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=boxsets

I'm having a disagreement with another user regarding the set UPC 777966898797 Cult Horror Collection: 9 Movies. This is a set of three bare bones discs with three movies each. All three movies are in the same case, no separate UPCs and are pretty bare bones. My interpretation of the rules, and I've followed the pattern used in similar sets created by others such as UPC 096009724993 Midnight Horror Collection Vol. 3 and UPC 096009203443 10 Horror Movies is that you only need to create child profiles for the movies themselves and not for the discs within the set. This is what I've dome while adding child profiles to other sets and I've never hand a problem before. However. this user is insisting there needs to be child profiles for the discs themselves as well as for the movies, even in cases like this where the discs are bare bones and within the same case. He's already gotten my revisions declined once because I removed the multi-movie child profiles and is trying to do this again with my second attempt which clarifies why I revised things that way.

Who is right? If there really does need to be profiles for the set itself, with child profiles for the discs themselves containing child profiles for the movies, even for bare bones sets, that's going to be lots of discs with not particularly useful information, as between the sets and the movies, everything's pretty much covered. And for cases like this where it's three movies on three discs, I think it's pretty obvious that the three movies with the same disc ID (using the alternate ID function) are on the same disc. Lots of 50 movie sets have 11 double-sized discs with two movies each and a 12th with three movies each. Do we really need to have 24 child profiles in addition to the movies themselves in such cases?

Having downloaded the set I can see the problem.

As far as I understand the rules regarding disc ids and alternate version usage the discs should be entered like this.

The Demon (Non alternate entry)
The Hatchet Murders (#1 Alternate)
Pieces (#2 Alternate)

Don't Look in the Basement (Non Alternate entry)
Memorial Valley Massacre (#1 Alternate)
It Happened at Nightmare Inn (#2 Alternate)

Silent Night, Bloody Night (Non Alternate entry)
Night of Bloody Horror (Alternate #1)
Horror Rises from the Tomb (Alternate #2)

And are you sure that the title on Disc 1 is 'It Happened at Nightmare Inn'?
Asking because the back cover says that it's Kill Baby Kill.

CubbyUps: That's actually a separate issue I hadn't noticed, thanks for pointing out. Those child profiles were actually from the same user who is fighting me on this. He created those child profiles and I only tried to "move them up one level" and I changed the front covers to match the box set (they were previously covers of other DVDs). I'll correct that once things are resolved one or or another with the main issue, which is that he doesn't like me attaching them to the core profile.

I'm also sure this has been covered before. The parent Profile should have ALL the Child Profiles attached to it. They shouldn't be attached to each other.

Thanks everyone. Glad that everyone seems to think I've been formatting this correctly. I decided to resubmit prior to waiting for the outcome with Kill Baby Kill replacing It happened at Nightmare Inn as that's a pretty big error. I also noticed that DVD Profiler software captured a different disc ID when I did so so resubmitted all three profiles for that disc with the ID the software detected. He's already down voted it of course. Hopefully someone else who has that set will turn up to upvote it or it will pass anyway.

No, Windows 7. Given that one of the movies was also incorrect, it might have been an error with the previous submission. My DVD Profiler software detected the same disc ID for all three movies on the same disc so I probably have the right ID. Normally the disc IDs my copy of DVD Profiler picks up are in fact consistent with what's already in the database. In fact I recently added child profiles to a set that was nearly identical to another set and it recognized the child profiles as having the same disc ID as that other set.

What about extra features? In general, should all the extra features be added to each alternate id? Even if they are connected to the other movie? What about extra features not connected to any movie? I'm a little bit confused.

Each DVD is a parent profile in its own containing 3 films that happens to be on the same disc and on the same side. That's where the alternate disc ids are for. It is the same as grand box sets containing multiple box sets. In that case the smaller box sets are added as child profiles containing child profiles for the discs with the movies. This is not different?

Quoting Corne:

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What about extra features? In general, should all the extra features be added to each alternate id? Even if they are connected to the other movie? What about extra features not connected to any movie? I'm a little bit confused.

Each DVD is a parent profile in its own containing 3 films that happens to be on the same disc and on the same side. That's where the alternate disc ids are for. It is the same as grand box sets containing multiple box sets. In that case the smaller box sets are added as child profiles containing child profiles for the discs with the movies. This is not different?

I think you're wrong here.

The Alternate Versions section of the rules mentions the following as one of the applications of the alternate versions feature:

"More than one film on the same side of a single disc (including Bonus Feature Films)
Use for: Different films on the same side of a single disc.
Do not use for: Different cuts of the same film
The first added entry uses the base Disc ID, and subsequent additions use the next available alternate version."

The way I understand the rules (as explained in my earlier posts in this thread) there is not to be a disc-level parent profile by Disc ID, and all individual movie profiles should be connected directly as child profiles to the profile of what you're calling a "grand box set".

This, in turn, also explains why the Box Sets section of the rules contains this:

"In addition to the above, the following are not included on the box set profile: Subtitles, Audio & Disc Features. List them with the individual profiles."

Features should therefore be listed with the child profile of the individual movie they belong to.
Extra features not connected to any movie might well be very rare in these types of sets, but if they do occur, I would think they should be listed in the parent profile.