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Corrected titles for the Star Trek Kelvin Universe sequels?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
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I was doing a CLT search for Chris Pine and I see that the Star Trek Kelvin Universe sequels are entered different ways. Either with or without the colon.

So which is the correct way?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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I say with the colons.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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Look at the spine of both movies...no colon.
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And look at the credits on the back. No colon.
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Good points. Changed my vote.
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Would not that part of the contribution rules cover that?

"Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break."
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But the people who made the recent Star Trek films don't seem to consider them episode descriptors. They say the titles are 'Star Trek Into Darkness' and 'Star Trek Beyond' on all the official posters etc.

Compare those to 'Mad Max: Fury Road', 'Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom' or 'Alien: Covenant', for example.
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Quoting Wolfpig:
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Would not that part of the contribution rules cover that?

"Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break."

That was the idea. But any rule that isn't particular popular, can be circumvented, if you really want to. Here, you just have to say: "well, but these aren't episode descriptors", and then you can happily ignore it. Some people do, some don't - it's hard to say what's "right". In general, rules work fine if we all apply them accross the board, but become a mess as soon as it's deemed okay to ignore them once in a while. How do we all decide, in a consistent manner, so that everyone knows and understands it, that certain episode descriptors apparently aren't episode descriptors, while others are? Which ones qualify, and which ones don't? What are the criteria, who makes them, and where are they written down?

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But the people who made the recent Star Trek films don't seem to consider them episode descriptors. They say the titles are 'Star Trek Into Darkness' and 'Star Trek Beyond' on all the official posters etc.

There we are. For me personally, this is a tough call. I'll readily admit that I have a profile for 'Die Hard With a Vengeance', not for 'Die Hard: With a Vengeance'. Still, I'm finding it pretty hard to flatly state that these aren't episode descriptors, as I honestly feel that they are. The only reason I'd take the contrary position is to allow me to ignore that particular rule - I'd have to lie just to be able to enter the title the way I wanted to. Other than that, I have to say that what "the people who made the recent Star Trek films" feel about this should not matter at all. DVD Profiler is it's own DVD database, with it's own set of rules, and those are the only ones that should matter - that's how you build a consistent shared database. We're not the only ones wrestling with this: IMDb, for instance, considers these episode descriptors, and have chosen to format these as 'Star Trek: Beyond' and 'Star Trek: Into Darkness'.
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