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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | Trying to determine the common name for Walter Jones (AKA Walter Emanuel Jones or Walter Emauel Jones). Currently the CLT shows the following results. Walter Emanuel Jones=70 titles (188 profiles). Walter Jones=51 titles (159 profiles). Walter Emauel Jones=1 titles (3 profiles). Looks like a slam dunk for Walter Emanuel Jones, but it is confusing with non-US profiles and disc level profiles perhaps affecting the results in one over the other. So just want to make sure what is his common name. IMDB |
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Registered: January 21, 2015 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,147 |
| Posted: | | | | Walter Emauel Jones it is clearly an insertion error...
On the rest we can investigate ... | | | "Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? ...You talk to me." |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 767 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: Trying to determine the common name for Walter Jones (AKA Walter Emanuel Jones or Walter Emauel Jones).
Currently the CLT shows the following results.
Walter Jones=52 titles (171 profiles). Walter Emanuel Jones=50 titles (191 profiles). Walter Emmanuel Jones=4 titles (6 profiles) Walter Emauel Jones=1 titles (3 profiles).
IMDB Walter Jones: 5 confirmed Backyard Dogs The Best of Power Rangers: The Ultimate Rangers (also listed as The Ultimate Rangers: The Best of the Power Rangers) The Brothers Grimsby (confirmed by Gamemaster) No Credit Lookup listing yetCloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 2 (confirmed by Gamemaster) Fighting (ADR Voices)Garden of Evil (or 'The Gardener') House of the Dead 2 Love and a Bullet Malcolm X (confirmed by marcelb7) Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Season 1 Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Season 2 Mutiny Open Season 2 (confirmed by Gamemaster) Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping (confirmed by marcelb7) Suckers Talisman Walter Emanuel Jones: 7 confirmed Alvin and the Chipmunks (ADR Voices)American Gun (confirmed by greyghost) Backyard Dogs Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Curse of the Hellmouth Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season Four (confirmed by marcelb7) Chronicle (confirmed by AiAustria) CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: The Complete Third Season (confirmed by SpaceFreakMicha) Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (confirmed by Gamemaster) Garden of Evil (or 'The Gardener') I Love You, Beth Cooper Love and a Bullet Movie Night: Triple Movie Treat (--> 1 disc with 3 movies: Talisman / Relative Fear / Fallout) NYPD Blue: Season 07 Post Grad Power Rangers Lost Galaxy: The Complete Series The Shield: The Complete First Season (confirmed by marcelb7) The Shield: Season 2 (confirmed by marcelb7) The Skeleton Key (ADR Voices)Suckers Talisman Tomb of Terror Walter Emmanuel Jones: 1 confirmed Just Wright Suckers What to Expect When You're Expecting (confirmed by T!M) Walter Emauel Jones: Incorrect entryDifferent Walter Jones: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0429435Death of a Prophet: Malcolm X / Death of a Prophet: The Last Days of Malcolm X / Death of a Prophet (3 variations, same feature. What's the original title?)Hawaii Five-O: The Eighth Season Putney Swope The Taking of Pelham One Two Three A pilot called Walter Jones is listed in this documentary:Flying the Secret Sky: The Story of the Royal Air Force Ferry Command | | | Last edited: by marcelb7 |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,715 |
| Posted: | | | | Chronicle@1:28:01 Additional Voices ... ... WALTER EMANUEL JONES ... | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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Registered: February 8, 2011 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,220 |
| Posted: | | | | Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 2 --> Walter Jones as Additional Voices The Brothers Grimsby --> Walter Jones as Additional Voices Fighting --> Walter Jones as ADR Voices Open Season 2 --> Walter Jones as Additional Voices
Alvin and the Chipmunks --> Walter Emanuel Jones as ADR Voices Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer --> Walter Emanuel Jones as Voice Actor The Skeleton Key --> Walter Emanuel Jones as ADR Voices | | | Last edited: by Gamemaster |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,436 |
| Posted: | | | | American Gun (2002) - Walter Emanuel Jones | | | Registered: February 10, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 767 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gamemaster: Quote: Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 2 --> Walter Jones as Additional Voices The Brothers Grimsby --> Walter Jones as Additional Voices Fighting --> Walter Jones as ADR Voices Open Season 2 --> Walter Jones as Additional Voices
Alvin and the Chipmunks --> Walter Emanuel Jones as ADR Voices Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer --> Walter Emanuel Jones as Voice Actor The Skeleton Key --> Walter Emanuel Jones as ADR Voices Thanks. However, I would consider ADR Voices as crew. They're added in post-production. And I'm not the only one who thinks this, otherwise there would be a lot more profiles with this data: Fighting: 1 out 26 profiles has this credit Alvin and the Chipmunks: 3 out of 56 profiles have this credit. The Skeleton Key: 1 of 62 profiles has this credit Are they listed in the cast section, or in the sound section of the crew? | | | Last edited: by marcelb7 |
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Registered: February 8, 2011 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,220 |
| Posted: | | | | In recent years it's included more often, but I don't think this topic is the place to restart that discussion, because as long as Invelos does not provide clarity in this.
I have only confirmed the titles, and although I personally have no difficulty in including them, I leave the decision to you to include them or not.
Only Open Season and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 2 are directly under the cast. But I think there are more titles in your list where the actual credit is not listed in the cast section. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting marcelb7: Quote: However, I would consider ADR Voices as crew. They're added in post-production. The "They're added in post-production" argument applies to labels like "Additional Voices" as well. Gamemaster's confirmations nicely illustrates the problem: he confirms seven credits for Mr. Jones, and on all of those seven films, he provided the exact same job. Only the label he's given differs a bit: sometimes it's "Additional Voices", sometimes it's "ADR Cast". In other films it's yet another label - 'What to Expect When You're Expecting' labels him "Voice Cast", for instance. Still, he's doing the same job every time. Personally, I always strive for consistency. In this case, that means that if we get to enter him for "Voice Cast" and for "Additional Voices", then I'll enter him for "ADR Voices" as well. Or the other way around: if we don't list him for "ADR Voices", then I don't want to list him when he's labeled as "Voice Cast" or "Additional Voices" either. Again, he's doing the same job every time. I say either we track it every time, or we don't track any of them at all - but let's not let it depend on tiny variations in the label he's given. We should either track his job, or not. This line of reasoning has resulted in these being entered more and more. This has also been helped by Ken Cole's public statement that: Quote: I don't see a compelling reason to exclude non-specific voice credits. They're voice credits, they're non-specific, so like Ken, I see no reason to leave them out. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,774 |
| Posted: | | | | CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: The Complete Third Season (3x01): WALTER EMANUEL JONES |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | 'What to Expect When You're Expecting': Walter Emmanuel Jones ("Voice Cast")
Note that the credit has two mm's in Emmanuel. |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,715 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: ... This has also been helped by Ken Cole's public statement that:
Quote: I don't see a compelling reason to exclude non-specific voice credits. They're voice credits, they're non-specific, so like Ken, I see no reason to leave them out. agreed. | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 767 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gamemaster: Quote: In recent years it's included more often, but I don't think this topic is the place to restart that discussion, because as long as Invelos does not provide clarity in this. <off-topic>To be honest, Invelos hasn't provided any clarity in ages...</off-topic> | | | Last edited: by marcelb7 |
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Registered: February 8, 2011 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,220 |
| Posted: | | | | I've missed Ken's Statement. So there's some clarity. I think T!M describes it perfectly why we should list them. |
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Registered: August 4, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,441 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gamemaster: Quote: I've missed Ken's Statement. So there's some clarity. I think T!M describes it perfectly why we should list them. So we shall list foley artists as well :D They do the same job (ADR and loop with voices and foley with gears)... | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,715 |
| Posted: | | | | Love and a Bullet@1:19:28 Cisco WALTER JONES | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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