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| Registered: November 10, 2013 |  Posts: 4 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi all.
I want to create a more complete profile for a certain release (UPC 814456-020594; Vinegar Syndrome's two-movie release for the movies "Murder Weapon" and "Deadly Embrace").
The release has two different movies on the same side of the Blu-ray and also on DVD (so one Blu-ray, one DVD, both containing the same two different movies).
Right now there's just one profile with a title "Murder Weapon & Deadly Embrace".
Apparently there SHOULD be one parent profile for the Blu-ray and one child profile for the DVD. But then each should have an alternative version (the other movie on both).
Would this be the correct way for contributing? (Parent Blu-ray with an alternative for the second movie combined with a child DVD with an alternative for the second movie). |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't think so. What I would do is create a box set (grand)parent profile with two child profiles ((each for one of the two movies on blu-ray) and optionally connect the corresponding DVD profile as grandchild profile to the matching blu-ray profile. |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | This should be treated as a box set. There would be an entry with the UPC and children for each movie. Put one of them on the main disc ID and the other on an alternate disc ID profile for both Blu-ray and DVD for a total of four children. |
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| Registered: June 6, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with the prevous posters; it should be a box set Murder Weapon / Deadly Embrace entered in the dB with the UPC. I would have only two children:
1) Murder Weapon entered with the discID of the Blu-ray with both movies, having two discs in the Disc Info section:
- Main Feature (BD) with the discID of the Blu-ray with both movies;
- Main Feature (DVD) with the discID of the DVD with both movies;
) Deadly Embrace entered with an alternate discID of the Blu-ray with both movies, having two discs in the Disc Info section:
- Main Feature (BD) with the alternate discID of the Blu-ray with both movies;
- Main Feature (DVD) with an alternate discID of the DVD with both movies.
Of course each of those children will contain data (PY, Rating, Runtime, Cast, Crew, and so on) for only their respective movie. |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Wigram: Quote:
I agree with the prevous posters; it should be a box set Murder Weapon / Deadly Embrace entered in the dB with the UPC. I would have only two children:
1) Murder Weapon entered with the discID of the Blu-ray with both movies, having two discs in the Disc Info section:
- Main Feature (BD) with the discID of the Blu-ray with both movies;
- Main Feature (DVD) with the discID of the DVD with both movies;
) Deadly Embrace entered with an alternate discID of the Blu-ray with both movies, having two discs in the Disc Info section:
- Main Feature (BD) with the alternate discID of the Blu-ray with both movies;
- Main Feature (DVD) with an alternate discID of the DVD with both movies.
Of course each of those children will contain data (PY, Rating, Runtime, Cast, Crew, and so on) for only their respective movie. You can't enter alternate IDS in disc info. Also, we are supposed to make a separate DVD profile when dealing with BD/DVD hybrids. I don't see why that would change here. You have to organize a little different because the parent is a box set instead of having the BD info, but I don't see why you would drop the DVD profile. |
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| Registered: June 6, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Also, we are supposed to make a separate DVD profile when dealing with BD/DVD hybrids. No. Read the rules: Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quote:
However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile. I don't see why you would stop doing this just because the set has multiple movies. Quote:
Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. In this case, the primary profile is a box set. The disc ID profile is for a movie, not a set. I've seen lots of sets like this entered in the DB and all of them follow separate profiles for the Blu-rays and DVDs. This section only applies when you would put the Blu-ray on the primary parent profile. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Wigram: Quote:
Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Also, we are supposed to make a separate DVD profile when dealing with BD/DVD hybrids.
No. Read the rules:
Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. But profiles are allowed for the dvd as well... actually the rest of the rule you quoted allows it... Rules Quote: Quote:
Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile. See the sentence I put in bold... there is no reason the DVDs can not have a profile of their own as a child of the blu ray. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Exactly. The correct setup would be:
Murder Weapon/Deadly Embrace (box set profile by UPC):
- Murder Weapon (by Disc ID, with data from the blu-ray):
- Murder Weapon (optional profile by DVD Disc ID, with data from the DVD)
- Deadly Embrace (by Disc ID, with data from the blu-ray)
- Deadly Embrace (optional profile by DVD Disc ID, with data from the DVD). |
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| Registered: June 6, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | I never said that one cannot have a child for the DVD itself. One can if one wishes. Personaly, I prefer not to multiply the number of profiles unecessarily when the rules allow it, which is why I said "I would have only two children" and not "One should have only two children". I still object to the following statements: Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Also, we are supposed to make a separate DVD profile when dealing with BD/DVD hybrids Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Exactly. The correct setup would be... The rules allow to have a separate child for the DVD in a BD/DVD Combo, but do not require it. |
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| Registered: November 10, 2013 | | Posts: 4 |
| | Posted: | | | | Interesting. Consensus appears to be that this should be a boxset. Opinions after that differ. Glad I asked. Thanks all! |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
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Quoting dee1959jay:
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Exactly. The correct setup would be...
The rules allow to have a separate child for the DVD in a BD/DVD Combo, but do not require it. Which is why I said "OPTIONAL profile by DVD Disc ID". Both BD profiles must have BD and DVD checked in Media types and contain the BD and DVD Disc IDs. Other than that, the data must come from the BD. What was incorrect in the setup you proposed is that you attached the optional DVD profiles directly to the parent box set profile. Each of them (if you choose to have them) should be attached as a grandchild profile to the matching BD profile in the Box Set Contents section of the BD profile. This is what I felt needed correcting in your statement, nothing else. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: June 6, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
What was incorrect in the setup you proposed is that you attached the optional DVD profiles directly to the parent box set profile. I did not. I suggested to have only the two BD profiles as children, each of them containing both BD and DVD Disc IDs. The confusion comes probably from my (incorrect) suggestion to use the alternate discID. Upon reading carefully the rules on alternate versions, I realize there is no alternate DiscID per se that would be usable in the Disc Info section of the profile; there is an alternate version, a variant of the DiscID profile, with the same discID in the Disc Info. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | I see. The layout of your proposed setup led me astray then. |
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