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SeaQuest DSV Season One weirdness |
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| kd5 | SciFi/Fantasy/Horror Geek |
Registered: May 24, 2010 | Posts: 374 |
| Posted: | | | | Just purchased SeaQuest DSV: Season One, entered it into DVD Profiler, noticed some weirdness with this set.
This is a slipcase with 4 thinpaks for each of the 4 flipper discs. Each one of these thinpaks has its own UPC, along with the the UPC for the whole season. When entered into DVD Profiler, I see the parent and 4 children. The titles of each of these children are what have me curious. Each child is titled seaQuest DSV (with a lower case s on seaQuest, where the parent is SeaQuest), the Edition field is where mention of it being Disc One, Two, Three, or Four is made, Sort Title for each child was also seaQuest DSV (lower case s). No mention is made of each of these children being Disc One (etc.) except for the Edition field.
I tried to find Contribution Notes to see why these were named like this but was wholly unsuccessful (I found discussion after-the-fact but nothing to indicate why these were initially named like this).
I corrected the titles in my local database and will not contribute my changes as I suspect it has something to do with the fact that these children each have their own unique UPC.
Can anyone explain why these children were entered into DVD Profiler that way? Were these children originally created as individual discs and available for purchase individually? Why was the only mention to being Disc One (etc.) made in the Edition field?
Weirdness! | | | Time is the fire in which we burn. (Soran) |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | What does it say on the thinpaks' covers? That's where the Title should come from per the rules.
In principle, entering Disc One etc. in the Edition field seems wrong to me. Compare this quote from the rules on Titles of TV Series:
"The title for a Box Set should be the title listed on the Front Cover; for example The Andy Griffith Show. Season indicators, if listed on the cover, should be entered as part of the title, not the edition. e.g. Angel: The Complete First Season." Applying the same logic to your case would result in entry in the Edition field not being allowed per the rules.
The rules on the Edition field say: "The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections". If the thinpaks' covers merely list seaQuest DSV: Season One etc. (do they?), the only way I could understand this use of the Edition field is by arguing this is necessary "for distinguishing between DVDs". |
| | kd5 | SciFi/Fantasy/Horror Geek |
Registered: May 24, 2010 | Posts: 374 |
| Posted: | | | | Title on each thinpak states SeaQuest DSV: Season One: Discs One, Two, Three, and Four (respectively). The graphic used for the title of this series, this season, and each of the 4 thinpaks illustrates a lower case s, but I wouldn't think the lower case first letter would carry over to DVD Profiler as the title for this series. It is only a graphic after all. If we were to subscribe to using the graphic as the official title for the DVD Profiler database, I imagine a lot of the titles in the database would need to be changed... I just don't understand why it would have been approved for the DVD Profiler database as it is currently listed (as described in my OP). Why would each thinpak have its own UPC? I did a search at Amazon for SeaQuest DSV Season One Disc One and came up with nothing beyond the series and/or season, like the individual discs did not exist in their catalog. Did these thinpaks originally exist as something else entirely? Like they were originally created and sold separately? | | | Time is the fire in which we burn. (Soran) | | | Last edited: by kd5 |
| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting kd5: Quote: Title on each thinpak states SeaQuest DSV: Season One: Discs One, Two, Three, and Four (respectively). Then that is what the Title in DVDP should be per the rules. You can safely contribute the changes, referring to the rules in your contribution notes. |
| | kd5 | SciFi/Fantasy/Horror Geek |
Registered: May 24, 2010 | Posts: 374 |
| Posted: | | | | Contributions have been submitted. | | | Time is the fire in which we burn. (Soran) |
| | kd5 | SciFi/Fantasy/Horror Geek |
Registered: May 24, 2010 | Posts: 374 |
| Posted: | | | | BTW, this is what each of the individual thinpaks look like (example: Disc One)... | | | Time is the fire in which we burn. (Soran) |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 950 |
| Posted: | | | | Hey, before I vote, I was curious why you changed the first "s" to a capital "S"? The scans you posted show that it's lowercase-look at the Q compared to the rest of the title. | | | Lori |
| | T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting LJG: Quote: I was curious why you changed the first "s" to a capital "S"? The scans you posted show that it's lowercase-look at the Q compared to the rest of the title. That would be because we don't take capitalization from the cover. Instead, we use the "Associated Press style title standard", which, for US profile, is applied automatically, and for other localities can be checked by the Capitalization Tool in the contribution rules. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Along with what T!M said, a smaller font does not automatically mean lowercase. The 'E', 'A', 'T' & 'D' are all uppercase letters, just a smaller font. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 950 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting LJG:
Quote: I was curious why you changed the first "s" to a capital "S"? The scans you posted show that it's lowercase-look at the Q compared to the rest of the title. That would be because we don't take capitalization from the cover. Instead, we use the "Associated Press style title standard", which, for US profile, is applied automatically, and for other localities can be checked by the Capitalization Tool in the contribution rules. Thanks. Is this part of the new filter/rules that went into place recentl-y-nevermind, just clicked on the link and I see it is. Thanks again. | | | Lori | | | Last edited: by LJG |
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