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why is it a contribution area  I don't contribute gets rejected .. who's gonna fix??
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I hate it when I go to the cast / crew area to update a small area.. but my cast list comes up  with BY's ( birth years)  .. none of which I am ever in charge of .. I'd say I would change.. maybe a cast year of birth in my own library of films maybe once a year?.,,  and I Never do this and contributre  to the data base ..  too confusing .. too many pages of data etc etc etc ..

SO -  along comes an area of where a cast member is only on screen through a phone call (no picture or video of that cast member)    .. ( voice only)  & I check the box ...  but then I see with the left and right columns of my data and the Invelos  data there is two or three cast members with BY years on one page
(yours ) and not on the other side..  So where did this information come from..?  not from me .,

I may install the title from Invelos  and it sits on my PC  as is ...  So I CONTRIBUTE the new info  about voice only  .. and I also say I did NOT  adjusts or change any BY  ..,  it would appear to be populated thru the Invelos filters..  I get three Yes votes  it appears to be o nthe way to be being approved until the panel of these to be  reject the contribution along with a note to me  saying: Please use birth years only to distinguish between otherwise identical cast and crew. New birth year submissions must be documented. .. .You know  that if I removed these BY ( even o na temporary basis.. who am I to do this?  it's not my area of contribution, and besides that I would be sure to get rejects  asking me WHY did you remove the Birth Years ? 

no wonder the data is so out of date and no one cares to contribute any more.. I know I rarely do...  and besides that  I will just ignore this contribution now ( Sleepless in Seattle )  and Maybe..  just maybe  one of the three yes votes will take it upon themselves to finish off this contribution. 
Because I know I won't .!
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How dow BYs sneak in:

Preliminary: Keep in mind that the database does not maintain a correctly linked cast/crew database nor a title database, but lists the cast and crew members directly in each and every profile.

If you have an actor without a BY in a profile of your local database - let's call her Terry Smith - who plays in two movies  (A and B),
  and if you don't have another Terry Smith in your local database,
      and if somenone adds a valid BY for Terry Smith and contributes it for your movie A profile,
then the Terry Smith in movie B gets the same BY. - This is by design because it is a workaround for the wrong database layout omitting the cast/crew db.

If you try to contribute movie B afterwards, then you are blamed of adding this BY and have to document it.

This is OK in more cases than it hurts, since the likelyhood of getting a BY is higher, the better known a case/crew member is.

If you want to contribute such a profile, you can either safely delete the BY or you can document it. Kluge's list is not complete, but lists almost all posts of BYs, which can be linked for documentation.

Anonter - more annoying - case of wrong BYs develops out of the above workaround: If you already have a wrong BY in a local profile - most of the times a legacy of the process described above - and someone contributes the correct profile (without the wrong BY) - or even deletes the wrong BY from the online database for this profile - the wrong BY is not deleted locally when you download the recent profile updates - it stays in your database until you delete it manually!
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Maybe imported some Headshots?
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Headshots don't alter local profiles.
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No, but they do create cast and crew entries with birth years in your cast and crew tables, which may end up in your profiles.
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That they do... I had a lot of birth years added to my database through the headshot import.
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