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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | There are updates being submitted changing the covers of TV Series Disc profiles to match the parent.
The documentation notes "Case type per the rules... Child profiles which share cover images of the parent should use the same case type options, including slip cover checkbox, as the parent."
There is a "no" vote stating "This is part of the "'Box Sets' Containing More Than One Film" rule and not part of the "TV Series on DVD" rule."
Is the contribution correct? | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
The documentation notes "Case type per the rules... Child profiles which share cover images of the parent should use the same case type options, including slip cover checkbox, as the parent." Here is where that text is found in The Rules, under the "Box Sets" Containing More Than One Film section:  When we look at the TV Series on DVD section of the rules we see it has this to say about the subject:  The note at the bottom says that we're to use the "Box-set rules" "in cases where multiple complete TV seasons/series...are packaged together", which does not apply in the case of these contributions. --------------- | | | | Last edited: by scotthm |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok, color me confused... Quoting Kathy: Quote:
There are updates being submitted changing the covers of TV Series Disc profiles to match the parent.
The documentation notes "Case type per the rules... Child profiles which share cover images of the parent should use the same case type options, including slip cover checkbox, as the parent."
You say that the contribution changes the covers, but the quote from the contribution notes talks about case type options. So I guess I don't understand the question. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | From my point of view the cover scans of the disc profiles of TV shows should be handled much more flexible. I se no value at all in copying the covers from the parent profile. I'd prefer any other scans - including the discs itselft, if they are of any artistical value... | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | This was all years ago, but I tried to submit scans of the inner digipack for Tales from the Crypt season 2 and they were denied, so I had to keep em local. For season 3 on up, they used thinpacks inside a slipcover, and those inner scans were accepted. The inner scans are basically identical to the thinpack ones with episode info and such, they just came from a different style package. Pretty sure I submitted them all about the same time too. For movie boxsets that all have the same outer cover forthe kids, I lock in original poster art locally.  | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
Ok, color me confused...
Quoting Kathy:
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There are updates being submitted changing the covers of TV Series Disc profiles to match the parent.
The documentation notes "Case type per the rules... Child profiles which share cover images of the parent should use the same case type options, including slip cover checkbox, as the parent."
You say that the contribution changes the covers, but the quote from the contribution notes talks about case type options. So I guess I don't understand the question. There are contributions changing covers and/or ticking the check box depending on the situation. |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | In the situations I am discussing these contributions are NOT "multiple complete TV seasons/series"
In each case they are a single season which contains the discs for that single season.
So, per the rules, "Child profiles which share cover images of the parent should use the same case type options, including slip cover checkbox, as the parent". | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
In the situations I am discussing these contributions are NOT "multiple complete TV seasons/series"
In each case they are a single season which contains the discs for that single season.
So, per the rules, "Child profiles which share cover images of the parent should use the same case type options, including slip cover checkbox, as the parent". You have it backwards. The Box Set rules only apply if it IS "multiple complete TV seasons/series". Read the note at the bottom of the TV Series section of the rules. --------------- |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting Kathy:
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In the situations I am discussing these contributions are NOT "multiple complete TV seasons/series"
In each case they are a single season which contains the discs for that single season.
So, per the rules, "Child profiles which share cover images of the parent should use the same case type options, including slip cover checkbox, as the parent".
You have it backwards. The Box Set rules only apply if it IS "multiple complete TV seasons/series".
Read the note at the bottom of the TV Series section of the rules.
--------------- You're right - I was reading it wrong. Therefore we have to follow the TV series rules and the basic Cover scan rules. Re-reading the TV series rules, I don't see anything related to the Cover Scans so then we would have to follow the regular rules, right? "If a DVD is packaged in a keep case, within a slipcase of some kind, scan the Cover Images from the outer slipcase." Or, am I missing or misreading something again? Edit: The reason I was thinking we applied the Box Set rule was because of the "no" vote in my initial post. I think that voter had read the rules wrong. Their rationale for voting "no" is: "This is part of the "'Box Sets' Containing More Than One Film" rule and not part of the "TV Series on DVD" rule." | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I admit this thread has me confused as well so I don't know how to vote in this poll... but I will point out something that looks like is being overlooked on the rules quoting... Quote:
Note: In cases where multiple complete TV seasons/series (each with distinct UPC/EAN) are packaged together, the Box-set rules are applied, treating each season/series like a single film - applying the above rules for its individual profile. Note what I put in bold... while you are to use box set rules for multiple seasons/series.... it is only when each season/series has it's own distinct UPC. If they do not you are not to use the box set rules. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Re-reading the TV series rules, I don't see anything related to the Cover Scans so then we would have to follow the regular rules, right? If you will review the Disc-Level Profiles section of the TV Series rules you will see covers mentioned. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I admit this thread has me confused as well so I don't know how to vote in this poll... but I will point out something that looks like is being overlooked on the rules quoting...
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Note: In cases where multiple complete TV seasons/series (each with distinct UPC/EAN) are packaged together, the Box-set rules are applied, treating each season/series like a single film - applying the above rules for its individual profile.
Note what I put in bold... The point is that this entire note only applies when multiple seasons/series are packaged together, which is not the case for these contributions. Therefore, the note to use "Box Set" rules is invalid for these contributions. --------------- |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
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Note: In cases where multiple complete TV seasons/series (each with distinct UPC/EAN) are packaged together, the Box-set rules are applied, treating each season/series like a single film - applying the above rules for its individual profile.
Note what I put in bold... while you are to use box set rules for multiple seasons/series.... it is only when each season/series has it's own distinct UPC. If they do not you are not to use the box set rules. I'd make no difference if the single seasson carries a UPC or not. A complete season is a feature which falls under the box set rule (multiple films/features packaged together; I'd also count the often published half seasons as full feature - but they tend to have individual UPCs...) while a single disc of a season falls under the disk level profile rule... | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) | | | | Last edited: by AiAustria |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | No... TV Series season sets do not come under box set rules. This is why TV series has it's own section of the rules. TV season sets are not to be confused with box sets... two totally different things. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is probably best to include a couple of the titles so that one can see exactly what we are dealing with. The updates are being made for all of the seasons/child profiles.
Child profiles for the following Blu-rays:
Star Trek: The Original Series: Season One. UPC 097361-414129. Disc 1: Disc: 2862-F6E0-70E9-F527
Star Trek: The Next Generation: Season One: UPC 097361-466040. Disc 1: Disc: D20A-DD3D-2CC7-F8E5 |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
No... TV Series season sets do not come under box set rules. This is why TV series has it's own section of the rules. TV season sets are not to be confused with box sets... two totally different things. Yes...  I did not intend the content of one season, but box sets of more than one season. e.g. the King of Queens Super Box (UPC 4-020628-980948) consists of all nine seasons which have to be handled as normal features - ie. there are no cast and crew in the parent profile! ... the discs for each individual season are handled by the TV show rule an form a nested boxset:   | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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