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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Posts: 49 |
| Posted: | | | | I just had a updates come through on my Dracula and Frankenstein legacy series sets, and I have issues with the changes.
For example, Frankenstein and the Bride of Frankenstein have been broken out into their own database entries, even though they're both on the same disc.
Up until now each entry under a box set was a separate disc with it's own disc ID.
If we're going to go down this route, we might has well give every episode from a TV season box set it's down entry.
Down that road lies madness and I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting aintnosin: Quote: I just had a updates come through on my Dracula and Frankenstein legacy series sets, and I have issues with the changes.
For example, Frankenstein and the Bride of Frankenstein have been broken out into their own database entries, even though they're both on the same disc.
Up until now each entry under a box set was a separate disc with it's own disc ID.
If we're going to go down this route, we might has well give every episode from a TV season box set it's down entry.
Down that road lies madness and I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. I love it! Every movie in my collection now has it's own profile. Ken has also said no to breaking it down to an episode level. If you don't like it, you don't have to download them, you can keep your collection the same in your local database. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 20 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: I love it! Every movie in my collection now has it's own profile. Ken has also said no to breaking it down to an episode level. +1 Having a profile for each movie is the way it SHOULD be. That way, for example, you can add a rating or a "watched by" for each single movie. |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,639 |
| Posted: | | | | We've evolved from DVD Profiler to Movie Profiler. I don't like it either but those are the current changes. I do find it ironic that some argue that we should profile things exactly as packaged but they then support multiple profiles per disc. Only one disc exists for multiples movies on a single disc so we're no longer profiling based on what physically exists. Yet some are against season profiles when no separate, physical, packaging exists for those season sets because it doesn't exist physically. Oh the irony. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | You do get that Movies make up most of the profiles? | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,749 |
| Posted: | | | | I love it. I've been doing it this way for years with manual profiles. With the advent of separate movie profiles, I have a lot of work to do deleting all my manual profiles and updating the new ones. This is my hobby. Now, if we could just fix the CLT and BYs so we had separate common names for all the different people. | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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Registered: September 6, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 124 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mreeder50: Quote: I love it. I've been doing it this way for years with manual profiles. With the advent of separate movie profiles, I have a lot of work to do deleting all my manual profiles and updating the new ones. .... +1 |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,678 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mreeder50: Quote: I love it. I've been doing it this way for years with manual profiles. With the advent of separate movie profiles, I have a lot of work to do deleting all my manual profiles and updating the new ones. This is my hobby. Now, if we could just fix the CLT and BYs so we had separate common names for all the different people. With so many manual profiles now being obsolete I hade to write a small program to find which boxsets have both manual profiles and variants. And I have to transfer my personal data from the manual profiles before I delete them. But hey, it's worth it. Only wish this had been implemented long ago, but better late than never. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,749 |
| Posted: | | | | Amen to that. | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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Registered: December 7, 2008 | Posts: 9 |
| Posted: | | | | I welcome this change, but don't like how it is implement at the moment. There appear to be no connection between profiles with the same Disc ID, even though they are the same physical disc. As such I believe this relationship should be made apparent. (I am considering creating dummy parent profiles in these cases, but this doesn't seem ideal either.) I also have 2 questions on this: 1. According to the Contribution Rules, series episodes should not be split out. Are so called mini-series (such as Brideshead Revisited) considered to be the same thing? 2. 'Shorts' aren't supposed to be separated either. What exactly is a short according to this definition? E.g. which of the films on the The Complete Jean Vigo Blu-ray are eligible for separation? * À propos de Nice (23 mins) * Taris (9 mins) * Zéro de conduite (44 mins) * L'Atalante (89 mins) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 554 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting naersjoen: Quote: 1. According to the Contribution Rules, series episodes should not be split out. Are so called mini-series (such as Brideshead Revisited) considered to be the same thing?
2. 'Shorts' aren't supposed to be separated either. What exactly is a short according to this definition? E.g. which of the films on the The Complete Jean Vigo Blu-ray are eligible for separation?
* À propos de Nice (23 mins) * Taris (9 mins) * Zéro de conduite (44 mins) * L'Atalante (89 mins) 1. Personally, I'd treat a miniseries similar to a season of a television series. 2. Quoting Wikipedia, "According to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, American Film Institute, and British Film Institute, a feature film runs for 40 minutes or longer". So in this case, I think Zero de conduite and L'Atalante warrant their own profiles. | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection My Letterboxd Page |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,851 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting rdodolak: Quote: I do find it ironic that some argue that we should profile things exactly as packaged but they then support multiple profiles per disc. Only one disc exists for multiples movies on a single disc so we're no longer profiling based on what physically exists. And I find it strange that one is just now realizing something that we've been able to do for many years, namely create/contribute multiple profiles for a single physical disc. --------------- | | | Last edited: by scotthm |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Nobody loves DVDs or Blu-rays for their own sake. We like them because they have movies on them. It makes sense that we would track them by movie and not just disc. We've always listed movies that span multiple discs on a single profile. This is just following the same principle the other direction now that the program supports it. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 762 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't care for this at all. My whole collection is based on Disc/Side info. If I download the new updates everything gets messed up. I almost didn't see what was going on when I looked thru my list of updates.
It would have been nice to leave the disc level profile under the disc ID and then add the movie profiles per alternate disc IDs. |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: Nobody loves DVDs or Blu-rays for their own sake. I'm not sure of that. People who fight to keep rules asking to reproduce exactly what is on covers/screen do not seem interested by the movie, specially when those DVD data do not match the movie... This is the main reason of many discussions here : those who love their pieces of paper/plastic against those who love movies. | | | Images from movies |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,293 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting zappman: Quote: Quoting mreeder50:
Quote: I love it. I've been doing it this way for years with manual profiles. With the advent of separate movie profiles, I have a lot of work to do deleting all my manual profiles and updating the new ones. ....
+1 Another +1 (if I understand what's being said!) | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong | | | Last edited: by Voltaire53 |
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