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Group divider question
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
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Recently, I removed a group divider in the title American Hustle. There are 2 actors credited separately, but with the same role. As the credits did not have a group divivder, I removed them.

I got a no vote, so I contacted this person. He claims, if they have the same credit, you can group them yourself with a group divider. The rules state, group dividers should mirror the credits.

Have I missed anything? Is it allowed to use dividers, when none are present?
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Chris
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Group-Dividers as I use them:

rolename        actor's name
                    actor's name

or

rolename
actor's name
actor's name

qualify for group-dividers

rolename a          actor's name
rolename a          actor's name

does not
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsurfeur51
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Quoting cvermeylen:
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He claims, if they have the same credit, you can group them yourself with a group divider. The rules state, group dividers should mirror the credits.

I think you are right and the no voter is wrong. If there is no group divider in credits, we should not invent one. And I do not say that because group dividers are the ugliest feature of this program, but rules say "list names exactly as they are in the credits" , and add, as you quoted, "group dividers should mirror the credits"
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
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I agree with Lewis and surfeur.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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If each cast member has their own role name (even if same name) they do not get a divider.
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As everyone has said, no divider.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
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Thanks you everyone. I updated my contributions notes to clearly specify the group divider does not exist in the credits. I'll see what the screeners make of it in a couple of days.

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Chris
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I uploaded the UK DVD version of American Hustle.

There should only be one group divider in the Cast for American Hustle and that's the one for 'Danny Rosenfeld'.

Is the contributor trying to add one for 'Tellegio's Consigliere'? That doesn't require one as it is listed twice.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
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The Dutch profile was uploaded  with the "'Tellegio's Consigliere" group divider. I removed it and got a no vote by the original contributor. I sent him a PM, but he claims if the credit is identical, it can be replaced by a group divider. 
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Chris
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He's wrong.  If each person has his/her own credit on screen, that's what they get in Profiler.  Only add a divider/group role if one is present on screen.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
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And of course the contrbution got declined. Looks like my comment below was too complicated for the screeners.    

* Removed unneeded group divider "Tellegio's Consiglieres", there is no group divider in the credits, actors are credited separately.
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Chris
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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And of course the contrbution got declined.

Something to remember the next time someone tries to win a forum discussion by claiming that the screeners agree with them... 

Other than that, I'm afraid you'll just have to try again and again (and again). You definitely are in the right here.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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This is one of the things I find so amusing about this software.
We have rules teling us what to do and we have screeners that don't care about rules, but just react based on the number of "No"-votes.

The very last contribution I made stated that it corrected IMDb carbon-copied data and replaced it with "as credited". The original contributor stated in his "No" that he prefers the IMDb data ...

My contribution got declined.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
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Quoting T!M:
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I'm afraid you'll just have to try again and again (and again). You definitely are in the right here.

Why bother?  Invelos have been informed of the problem and chosen what they want in their database.  Just lock your local and move on.

If you stop contributing these things won't bother you so much.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
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I'll indeed try again. If we all stop contributing, we all have to build up all profiles from scratch.
With my purchase rate I will have to start working half time 
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Chris
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