| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Last night at work I picked up the BD/DVD Combo Set of Knocked Up. There was no DVD Child profile created for this release... found it odd as every combo set I have gotten till now there was always the child profile created and attached. But that is OK... first thing this morning I go to create it. I go to add DVD by Disc ID and then I kinda see why it wasn't attached... It is already in the system for this disc ID... but it was created for the HDDVD/DVD Combo Set. OK... don't change the fact it is still part of this set as well so I download and attach it. Cast Question:The Cast List is there... but you can tell it hasn't been updated lately (or the profile at all for that matter... still didn't have the color check box checked). No group dividers put in yet... none of the Uncredited Cast was added yet...etc. So I was planning on copying the updated cast list from the Blu-ray parent profile... but I see something I am not familiar with. The Cast List does have 1 thing the parent profile does not have. And it is something I am not familiar with... it has a long list (about a dozen) cast members at the end listed as ADR Voice. So 2 questions: 1. For my own curiosity... exactly what is ADR Voice? 2. Is ADR Voice correct for Cast Lists or should it be removed? Thanks in advance for the answers!  Small Rant:Yet another situation where we need another way other then UPC & Disc ID to add profiles to the main database. I never had an HDDVD player or any HDDVD discs... but now I will be showing one (at the very least cover) in my online collection.... with no way to fix it to show correctly. Thankfully I personally have phpdvdprofiler now... which is the link I give most people now anyway. But not everyone has that. And I am obviously not the only one that this type of thing bothers since no one even bothered to attach this profile to our release. Personally, in my eyes, this is something that needs to be fixed... I feel even more-so then the cast/crew linking! It is getting ridiculous already!  | | | | Pete |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | ADR Voices: Ken has publicly stated that he doesn't "see a compelling reason to exclude non-specific voice credits." And that's what these are: non-specific voice credits. So there you go. As always, though, different DVD Profiler users like to interpret both the rules and Ken's public statements in wildly different ways...
As for your "small rant": you seem to be describing a need to be able to attach multiple sets of cover scans to one particular profile. I agree that we need that. However, somewhere along the line you turn it into needing "another way other then UPC & Disc ID to add profiles to the main database'. That's something else entirely, and not something that I immediately see a need for. But being able to attach more than one set of cover scans to a single profile - yes please! | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for the explanation. I would like to see the post by Ken. Not because I do not believe you... I do. I just like to read his post so I can see exactly what he said so I can feel more comfortable with what I need to do. Just a me thing.  Note that I am not asking you to find it or anything. I did mean "another way other then UPC & Disc ID to add profiles to the main database". As there can be a lot more that is different then just the case type.... could be overview... could be case type...and sure other things that are not coming to mind first thing this morning. While I know most things can be locked down locally... and even be shown in the online I wholeheartedly believe it shouldn't have to be... I wholeheartedly believe there should be the ability to put in a profile exactly as the release is for all releases. And I wholeheartedly feel a need for it more so then even new linking... which I do feel is extremely important as well. The 2 is my top two wishes for the program right now... with this being just slightly more important in my eyes. I guess it is a pet peeve type thing. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | ADR is the process of adding voices and human sounds to the sound track post filming. ADR can be as simple as a group of people providing a "crowd murmur", an actor providing script dialogue on an unusable section within the production, or a complete voice replacement (think Jones doing Darth Vader). There were a couple of polls that people voted against adding ADR, not universal mind you, but the community at the time was against dding them. The discussion T!M is referring to, a comment about including "Additional Voices" during a rules discussion link hereQuoting Ken Cole Quote:
On the latest topic, there is no exclusion for Additional Voices - if they're in the credits, they should be included. We include similar non-specific live-action credits, such as an actor credited as "Various roles". We also include specific voice actors, so I don't see a compelling reason to exclude non-specific voice credits. As far as whether to include them, people have been, and the profiles have been getting approved. I know that doesn't say much. The argument for "since they are providing voices on screen, and are technically cast, they should be handled as non specific voice talent and should be included" The argument against, "they are included within the crew section of the movies, and therefor must be crew" Nothing is ever resolved... Charlie | | | | Last edited: by CharlieM |
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| | Posted: | | | | Of course nothing is ever resolved. I don't think I will go through the trouble of sending in a cast update. Because the way it sounds at least I personally don't agree and will just be copying the blu-ray cast list over an locking it. Which means they won't get the other updates it was adding to the cast list... but oh well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | FWIW, I agree with Pete we need more identifiers for profiles than the current two (UPC and Disc ID). Re-releases and store-specific releases sharing the same UPC come to mind. |
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