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Producer and Executive Producer
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninso4
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The rules say that
A [name] Production
is a valid credit for a producer.
Now I have a movie with this credits:
A Leslie Greif Production
and then in the normal credits
Executive Producer Leslie Greif
How do I credit him?
Producer, Executive Producer or both?
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Producer, Executive Producer or both?
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I would credit them with both...and the rules don't seem to say not to. I've seen various movies before where the same person (sometimes more than one person) gets credited with both in a film's normal credits.
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Both

It is not uncommon for a producer to be in both roles and the rules do state that "A Leslie Greif Production" calls out for a Producer credit.  And if explicitly credited as an Executive Producer as well, that credit should not be ignored.
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I'd personally go for just executive producer, but can understand why both could apply.

On a different note, in regards to the "A [name] Production" -> Producer rule, I'm not really convinced this is always true. On older films in particular, the idea of a "production" seems to have a more liberal meaning (less "produced by", more "project"). I've seen credits where directors and producers shared the "A [name] Production" credit, but found no other proof that the director actually served as a producer (they didn't get the Oscar statuette when the movie won BP, not listed in film databases and encyclopedias, etc).
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I've seen credits where directors and producers shared the "A [name] Production" credit, but found no other proof that the director actually served as a producer (they didn't get the Oscar statuette when the movie won BP, not listed in film databases and encyclopedias, etc).

I would be interested in knowing what films these were for as I have never seen a director included in a credit of "A [name] production."  "A [name] Film," yes, but not production.
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I would still like to know the difference between "Executive Producer" and "Executive in Charge of Production"
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"I would be interested in knowing what films these were for as I have never seen a director included in a credit of "A [name] production."  "A [name] Film," yes, but not production."








"I would still like to know the difference between "Executive Producer" and "Executive in Charge of Production""


An executive producer can mean anything: can be the head of a studio/production company.... to a big stars' manager/agent and anything in between...can have zero involvement in the actual production of a film.
An Executive in charge of production is sort of a production manager.
The only producers credit that actually means anything, and the one that picks up the BP Oscar is the producer ("produced by").
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I've seen credits where directors and producers shared the "A [name] Production" credit, but found no other proof that the director actually served as a producer (they didn't get the Oscar statuette when the movie won BP, not listed in film databases and encyclopedias, etc).

I would be interested in knowing what films these were for as I have never seen a director included in a credit of "A [name] production."  "A [name] Film," yes, but not production.
The one that came to mind was "the Norman Jewison-Walter Mirisch production" of In the Heat of the Night, produced by Walter Mirisch and directed by Norman Jewison. In this case, it was produced by The Mirisch Corporation and only Mirisch won the Best Picture statuette. I haven't seen Jewison listed as a producer on the film in any source.

On the Waterfront also has the credit "An Elia Kazan Production" produced by Sam Spielgel, but I don't believe Kazan produced that picture either.
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the star, not the director..... "a Gene Autry production"




Although, in this case, the series of westerns Autry did for Columbia (after leaving Republic) in the 1940s-50s, the films were produced by a company set up by Autry, so although uncredited, he is the "executive producer"
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I would be interested in knowing what films these were for as I have never seen a director included in a credit of "A [name] production."  "A [name] Film," yes, but not production.
The one that came to mind was "the Norman Jewison-Walter Mirisch production" of In the Heat of the Night, produced by Walter Mirisch and directed by Norman Jewison. In this case, it was produced by The Mirisch Corporation and only Mirisch won the Best Picture statuette. I haven't seen Jewison listed as a producer on the film in any source.

On the Waterfront also has the credit "An Elia Kazan Production" produced by Sam Spielgel, but I don't believe Kazan produced that picture either.
Thanks for those examples.  It seems those were all made before the Hollywood directors and producers unionized and created specific rules about who gets what credit.

As I said, I had never seen one, probably because I wasn't paying attention.  It seems that the people who added to the crew chart weren't aware of it either.
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