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"Peeling off" discs for individual profiling / box setting?
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I'm very greatful to jjmtrey for the initial work on "Aviation: A Filmed History" (781735603123), as all of the discs have been inventoried and are attached to a single profile by DiscID.

What I want to do is "peel off" / extract these discs (24 of them) so that I can profile them individually, with cover scans, and then add them back as box set contents.

What's the best / easiest / accepted way of doing this? DVDP already knows about each of these discs in terms of DiscID, but little else.
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I might be mistaken but I think the only way to do that is if the Child Profiles of the Box Set have been contributed.

If they haven't then you will need to enter them yourself via the Disc Id.
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How are these packaged? Do they come in individual keepcases with their own UPCs? If they do, you will need to enter each UPC as a child. If not, you can either add each child profile manually (putting the disc into the a DVD-ROM drive and creating a new profile for each.

Or you can download the BulkEdit plug-in. Flag the parent profile, then select "Collection" at the top, go down to "Flagged" and select "Clone Children from Disc IDs..." The next screen asks you if you want to clone any data from the parent (release info, cover scans, etc.). Choose what you want and go onto the next step and the plug-in will create profiles for each Disc ID.
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So is this a TV series/season?

And are there disc ID's in the parent?
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What's the best / easiest / accepted way of doing this? DVDP already knows about each of these discs in terms of DiscID, but little else.

Easiest way (for me) would be to use BulkEdit's "Collection -> Flagged -> Clone Children from DiscID"
That would create the 24 profiles as 100% copies from the parent and put them as Childprofiles under the Parentprofile.
Now profile blithely away or if those DVDs are already in the Database under UPC or different DiscIDs simply download those and transfer the necessary informations to the newly created profiles.

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How are these packaged?
24 individual THINPaks with distinct artwork but no UPC.
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Or you can download the BulkEdit plug-in. Flag the parent profile, then select "Collection" at the top, go down to "Flagged" and select "Clone Children from Disc IDs..." The next screen asks you if you want to clone any data from the parent (release info, cover scans, etc.). Choose what you want and go onto the next step and the plug-in will create profiles for each Disc ID.
I'm definitely going to check this out.
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What's the best / easiest / accepted way of doing this? DVDP already knows about each of these discs in terms of DiscID, but little else.

Easiest way (for me) would be to use BulkEdit's "Collection -> Flagged -> Clone Children from DiscID"
That would create the 24 profiles as 100% copies from the parent and put them as Childprofiles under the Parentprofile.
Now profile blithely away or if those DVDs are already in the Database under UPC or different DiscIDs simply download those and transfer the necessary informations to the newly created profiles.

cya, Mithi


I also use BulkEdit for child profiles and then edit the CP's as needed.  BE has some really nice features!!
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So is this a TV series/season?

And are there disc ID's in the parent?

It's a little difficult to characterize.

All 24 discs come in one custom case, but they are broken up into five different subsets, some of which are identified in volume numbers as printed on individual cover art, and others identified by groupings as indicated on the custom case itself.

29 Films in 5 Spectacular Sets:

Aviation: Classic Films from the National Archives (six volumes / discs)

Jets (four volumes / discs)
- Of the Navy and Marines
- Of the US Air Force
- Of the Cold War
- Jets, Unusual

WWII Air War (six volumes / discs)

Fighter Pilots (four discs, volumes not indicated on THINpak art but indicated on custom case)

Military Air Power (four discs, volumes not indicated on THINpak art but indicated on custom case)

So it looks like I should create a container for each of these groups, even though there is not a physical slip cover / case for the per se. More accurately I should say that I received this as a gift and it's incomplete, missing one of the discs, and it may well have originally come with covers / cases that I don't now have.
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So I've got the bulk edit plugin and it seems to have done it's job, but I have another question (and certainly more to follow) regarding the handling / naming of individual disc profiles.

For DVD title / sort title, what do you use?

Suppose the individual DVD cover art is: "F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom".

You know that is disc number 18 in the set and that the previous profiler has listed it as "F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom", and that the disc label is "F-15 Eagle".

Which of the following is the DVD title?

F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom
Aviation: A Filmed History: F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom

Sort title "Aviation: A Filmed History D18"???  If used throughout the 24 discs, this would at least force the discs to sort sequentially according to the case art.

And regarding the five sub-sets: Create a sub container profile for each?
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So I've got the bulk edit plugin and it seems to have done it's job, but I have another question (and certainly more to follow) regarding the handling / naming of individual disc profiles.

For DVD title / sort title, what do you use?

Suppose the individual DVD cover art is: "F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom".

You know that is disc number 18 in the set and that the previous profiler has listed it as "F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom", and that the disc label is "F-15 Eagle".

Which of the following is the DVD title?

F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom
Aviation: A Filmed History: F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom

Sort title "Aviation: A Filmed History D18"???  If used throughout the 24 discs, this would at least force the discs to sort sequentially according to the case art.
Sort titles are local-only and won't get uploaded to the online database. As for the DVD title, if the thinpak says "F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom", then I'd give the DVD Title as "F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom: Disc 1", etc. Since they come in different cases, I'd re-number with each subset.

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And regarding the five sub-sets: Create a sub container profile for each?
Since there isn't a separate UPC for the different sub-sets, you can only contribute disc-level profiles. A container profile would not be contributable as it wouldn't have a UPC.
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For DVD title / sort title, what do you use?

Well, this is the point where the road forks into "Contribution to the Database" and "Local only"
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Suppose the individual DVD cover art is: "F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom".

Than that is the title for contribution.
Locally you are free to do as you like of course:
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F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom
Aviation: A Filmed History: F-15 Eagle: Defenders of Freedom

Both are totally valid. On movie box-sets I tend to go with the real title without any box-set moniker. For TV-Series I go with some kind of a normalized title-structure. This box-set seems to sit somewhere in limbo between those two. 
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Sort title "Aviation: A Filmed History D18"

Yupp, and "Aviation: A Filmed History D00" for the parent. I do that all the time.
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And regarding the five sub-sets: Create a sub container profile for each?

For contribution: Nope, all the 24 children directly to the parent.
Local: You can of course create 5 manual profiles and move the children there according to your liking. I did something similar with the Star Trek: The Next Generation: 25th Anniversary Collection. All 49 disks are children to the parent, so I created 7 manual-profiles for the seasons and moved the children there.

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I'm sure this has been addressed by others elsewhere, but I wish we could enter a value (pulldown box) for each disc to represent it's sequence within the set.

Because it's strictly alphabetical right now, I'm always getting in series films or TV shows where discs are in a jumbled chronologically order but should be watched in a very different sequence if f they were to make any sense to the viewer.

With this extra feature, it wouldn't matter what was in the title field, because any time you expanded the box set you'd automatically see things in the right order. As it stands now, I have to edit the sort field and enter something like S01D01 or similar goofyness to force things in the proper sequence.

You could still have an override checkbox for switching to the custom sort field if desired.
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I hear you. Sometimes when I change the sort title to list box set contents in production order (for example, "Bond 01: Dr. No"), I still would like them in alphabetical order when filtered, etc.
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Why not use sort chronologically if you want chronological (production order) and alphabetically if you want alphabetically? There's no need for a second solution.
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Why not use sort chronologically if you want chronological (production order) and alphabetically if you want alphabetically? There's no need for a second solution.


You can't mix them together if you want the contents of a box set sorted chronologically and the rest of the collection list sorted alphabetically.
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At this time in the development of the profiler nothing works very well with multiple, (more than 1 movie/dvd), movies.

but

I use tags;
these two sets of tags allow me to isolate the movies from the TV series and list movies if I want in list in alphabetical order or as genre.

Selection: And set, under Collection List must be set.

TAGS
Box Set
- Child (a profile for each DVD in a box set)
- Grand Parent (a manual profile to locate sets of dvds like Star Trek, Bond, Dark Shadow, etc.)
- Parent Level One (the prime or out level profile that contains more than one dvd)
- Parent Level Two (used where TV series hase there separate seasons with there own UPC in box with other seasons)

Television
- Completed Series
- Mini Series
- Misc
- Movie- play- Opera
- Series

For this to work all discs with a movie titled in a box set must be profiled as a child under a parent profile.

Example:
For all non TV movies double click on the Television and Parent Level 1 tags.

if I want to include Television movies, must double click on every tag under the Television tag but the Televion tag and movie tags.

As stated above, TV movie collection like Columbo, Murder She Wrote, etc. with more than 2 movies do not list as individual movies.
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