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Single Movie Box Set Question
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
Registered: March 13, 2007
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so for instance a normally single movie like Star Trek Into Darkness where there is a blu ray and a dvd, why is it that the dvd tag isn't removed from from the parent and the child is the dvd only and the count as is removed or checked as none?

Now I know everyone is going to say well you can do it locally which I understand, I just want to know the logic behind it, and in the future do not want to contribute something improperly.
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What you describe is not a box set but a single film with two formats provided.  The main profile must represent all the content.  The child profile for the DVD is optional and changes nothing in the required profile.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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what do you mean its optional?

so if im understanding you correctly were not allowed to contribute a profile where as the main profile only has blu ray checked and all the remaining data intact and the child has only dvd checked and the general info SRP, price paid os blank.

is there a legitimit reason for this, it seems like it would give you false data, also what about setting the child and checking none for the collection number, does that make sense?
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The child profile (the DVD) is optional in the sense that it's there for people who like to have disc-level profiles for each copy of the movie, but can easily be disregarded by those who don't care for it. The parent profile already tells you what you really need to know (assuming that people buy Blu-rays for the Blu-ray and not necessarily for the DVD copy). Users can remove or opt not to download the child profile and still have the main profile tell you the important stuff. This is in contrast to real movie box sets which contain multiple films. In these cases, the parent profile is essentially blank, with child profiles representing each disc (or inner UPC if there is one). You'd need to download the child profiles if you want cast & crew data, features, audio & video specs, etc.

I guess in this sense, sets with multiple media of the same film are sort of treated as TV profiles, where the child disc-level profiles are largely redundant but there for people who want them.

The collection number, count as #, etc., are all user based (you're supposed to edit it yourself, though doing nothing sets to the defaults).
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Quoting Mike:
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is there a legitimit reason for this

From the rules here, bottom of the page:

Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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Quoting Rizor:
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The child profile (the DVD) is optional in the sense that it's there for people who like to have disc-level profiles for each copy of the movie, but can easily be disregarded by those who don't care for it. The parent profile already tells you what you really need to know (assuming that people buy Blu-rays for the Blu-ray and not necessarily for the DVD copy). Users can remove or opt not to download the child profile and still have the main profile tell you the important stuff. This is in contrast to real movie box sets which contain multiple films. In these cases, the parent profile is essentially blank, with child profiles representing each disc (or inner UPC if there is one). You'd need to download the child profiles if you want cast & crew data, features, audio & video specs, etc.

I guess in this sense, sets with multiple media of the same film are sort of treated as TV profiles, where the child disc-level profiles are largely redundant but there for people who want them.

The collection number, count as #, etc., are all user based (you're supposed to edit it yourself, though doing nothing sets to the defaults).



ok so a thought, as far as data is concerned if we remove the dvd disc profile altogether yes the parent has all the relevant information except..it doesn't display the dvd portion audio and video so doesn't that make the data portion of the profile or database incorrect?

Im just trying to decide how the data best suits me...sure I may never watch the dvd portion of the profile again but I wonder shouldn't the database to be accurate still reflect both formats audio and video selections? and therefore shouldn't the profile to be accurate be counted as 2 profiles not just one as the parent would?
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No, the profile should reflect the main media type, usually HD. This is clearly stated in the rules as quoted above. The DVD details belong to the child profile for those who want it so there is no reason to repeat it again for those that don't want it. Adding it to the parent would just cause confusion as to what data actually belongs to the main media type since there is no way to separate the information in the profile with dividers or such.  Just add it to the child profile, or ignore it, the choice is yours.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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under personalization, what does collection number and count as mean? Whats the difference?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantBlair
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"Collection Number" is strictly for sorting. Put in different numbers, then you can click on the "Coll #" column in the Collection List tab (if it's not visible, you can right click in the Collection List area and go to View Columns and tick the Collection Number item in the list to add it.) For instance, you can start with 1 being the first DVD you ever purchased, 2 for the second, 3 for the third, et al. and you would then be able to sort the collection into that order easily.


"Count As" is for giving a count to your DVDs. The total of these is listed just below the All/Owned/Ordered/Wish List/etc tabs as "Total DVDs."  The benefit of this feature is, for instance, assume you have the boxed set Batman: The Motion Picture Anthology. It contains four movies that would be the "child profiles." The problem is, you have 5 entries but there are only 4 movies, so the Total DVDs count would be off. You can go into the main boxed set entry, change Count As to 0 (zero) but leave each of the movies as 1 and it will be subtracted from the count making it more accurate.

Likewise, if you happen to have a single profile with more than one movie on it, you can increase the Count As number.
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