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| Registered: May 30, 2008 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | Multiple documentary shorts with multiple disc profiles ...
I'm still working on my submission of "Flight Check Fighters" (011301622945), and after many hours of research have much more complete information than when I started.
As mentioned before, Timeless Media Group had nothing to do with the content other than making and distributing the DVD. The instructional documentary shorts were made either by the United States Army Air Forces First Motion Picture Unit or similar units from Lockheed Aircraft Corporation, Bell Aircraft Corporation Motion Picture Division, Curtis-Wright, and Republic Aviation Corporation.
In several cases, outfits like Timeless Media edit out the opening or closing credits and splice these things together willy-nilly. Since these documentaries are in the public domain and available on Youtube, I've been able to compare the originals to what are on the disc and now have much more complete production company information.
So I think I'll be covered by the multiple features on same side of one disc rule.
Do I credit these shorts appropriately, even if the credits have been clipped off by the distributor?
I guess I go with the running time as edited on disc?
As for production credits, I only have three slots per disc. If I have three general titles / chapters per disc, do I give one to each, as in for disc one, one credit for the P-38 Lightning, one for the P-39 Aircobra, and one for the P-40 Warhawk? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lasitter: Quote:
So I think I'll be covered by the multiple features on same side of one disc rule. Actually, if the shorts have been edited together to make one single feature, then you are not. Quote:
Do I credit these shorts appropriately, even if the credits have been clipped off by the distributor? You can enter cast as uncredited but, if the crew credits have been removed, you can't edit them as there is no uncredited tag for crew. Quote:
I guess I go with the running time as edited on disc? Yes. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| | Registered: May 30, 2008 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Actually, if the shorts have been edited together to make one single feature, then you are not.
The disc presents each fighter in the form of a chapter. On the 2nd disc, the chapter on the P-47 is actually three different training films spliced together. - How to Fly the P-47 - Ground Handling, Take-Off, Normal Flight, Landing, @21:39 switching to ... - How to Fly the P-47: High Altitude Flight and Aerobatics, @ 41:56 switching to - P-47 Combat Operations (narrated by Ronald Reagan) The second and third title credits are "in-line" as these three are spliced together and run continuously. I think it would be reasonable to handle these with episode dividers. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't think it matters that they are presented as 'chapters' as this is presented as one continuous feature. In my opinion, you are overthinking this. I would simply profile the disc, as it is presented, and not worry about how each individual part was created. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree with the Martian | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: May 30, 2008 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I don't think it matters that they are presented as 'chapters' as this is presented as one continuous feature. In my opinion, you are overthinking this. I would simply profile the disc, as it is presented, and not worry about how each individual part was created. Great. So given the comprehensive detail I've provided in this and other posts, what would your submission look like? |
| | Registered: May 30, 2008 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | Timeless Media Group produced nothing. Who are the producers? How do you list them? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Timeless is the media company. You can use outside sources for the production studios since the rules don't say where they must come from. But if they are credited on screen, you should use those credits first. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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