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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi there, I'm hoping someone could advise me:
I have voted "no" on a contribution as, although the profile does need correcting, I don't agree with this person's correction.
However I am now getting PMs from this person who is insisting that my vote "breaks the rules" and that I should change it immediately.
My question is: if I don't believe his amendment is the best one and my suggestion doesn't break the rules, am I right to vote no?
In his last PM he says I should be voting "neutral", however surely this would suggest I had no opinion on the change, which I do.
So can anyone tell me what the neutral vote is for and should I be using it in this situation?
I don't want to give details about this particular profile as its not a question of who's right or wrong (although I'm sure the other user would disagree), its more a question of how does the voting system work and what does each vote option do? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 550 |
| | Posted: | | | | if you vote no and give a just reason that should be your right. it is a user contributed database and if you don't agree with the change then you should be able to vote so. why else would there be the option to vote? | | | Schultzy - http://www.michaelschultz.net
grenactics - The art of skillfully fraggin one’s opponent with the use of grenades or other compact explosive devices that are thrown by hand or projected. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | As long as your vote is not against the contribution rules, it is ok to vote "no". However, this has EVERYTHING to do with who's right and wrong, because if the submitted data is indeed correct, and your different POV stems from personal preference, then voting "no" on a correct submission is indeed against the rules. So, if you want some answer to your question from the forum, you'll have to cough up some more details  | | | | Lutz |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | If a person's contribution does not break the rules then you should not vote no on his contribution. Your vote isn't whether or not you agree with something... you vote to say yes this contribution follows the rules or no the contribution does not follow the rules. From the voting section of the rules... Quote:
If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. So the way I see it is as long as this person is not breaking a rule you can't vote no. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,005 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
So can anyone tell me what the neutral vote is for and should I be using it in this situation? The neutral vote has been introduced to give you the possibility to hide an evaluation from the "Unvoted pending updates" filtering, if you decide you do not want to vote on this particular update. It isn't acccounted for anything. | | | 
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 550 |
| | Posted: | | | | let me clarify before someone attacks my response. If the contribution does not break the rules and the information is correct then there is no reason to vote no. If I vote no on somethine 99.999% of the time it is on an image (which I why I wish profile data and images were seperate when voting). THe thing with images is that there is alittle more grey area as to if the new image is an improvement. | | | Schultzy - http://www.michaelschultz.net
grenactics - The art of skillfully fraggin one’s opponent with the use of grenades or other compact explosive devices that are thrown by hand or projected. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
My question is: if I don't believe his amendment is the best one and my suggestion doesn't break the rules, am I right to vote no? Whether you "believe his amendment is the best one" or not is beside the point. You can only vote NO if the contribution breaks the rules. | | | | Last edited: by lyonsden5 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | It would help if you gave us an example...or rather the example. Without knowing the details, I have to agree with Rick. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | <<cough>> <<cough>>...details:
The Example in question is "Angel: Season Three on DVD" which is exactly how it appears on the DVD cover....
"Season Three on DVD" is on a single line in a single font in a single colour. There is no justification to only use a part of the title as northblake would have it. I should point out that his/hers is the only 'No' vote.
His/Her reasoning for voting 'No' was that it was a distinguishing characteristic... distinguishing from what I am not sure...
As for the 'No' vote not breaking the rules...well...the example in the TV series section clearly shows the entire title being used...not just the part that says "First Season". |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | The user is clearly wrong. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bob9000: Quote:
<<cough>> <<cough>>...details:
The Example in question is "Angel: Season Three on DVD" which is exactly how it appears on the DVD cover.... Just so I am clear. Currently it is: Title: Angel: Season Three Edition: on DVD And you are changing it to: Title: Angel: Season Three on DVD Edition: Is that correct? If it is, then your change is the proper one. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Just so I am clear. Currently it is:
Title: Angel: Season Three
Edition: on DVD
And you are changing it to:
Title: Angel: Season Three on DVD
Edition:
Is that correct? If it is, then your change is the proper one. Close...currently "on DVD" is not listed at all, even though it is clearly part of the title and not separate, so I added it. Northbloke just feels that he/she knows better and that following the rules is secondary to personal preference. EDIT: finally just clued in that the "bloke" in "Northbloke" is probably an indication of gender.    | | | | Last edited: by bob9000 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | I personally think the "on DVD" part is beyond stupid, and shouldn't be added at all.
HOWEVER, northbloke, "on DVD" IS to be added, because the rules say that it is considered part of the title.
If you are like me, vote neutral or not at all, change the title to what you feel it should be, and lock it in your personal database.
I actually have EVERY TV series in my local database listed as "The Complete First/Second/whatever # it is Season", regardless of what it's titled. Again, personal preference - that would break the rules, and as such I don't upload it or vote against different titles than my own. | | | "I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?
No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose…
Rapture." |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | northbloke's no vote stems from personal preference, is not backed by the cover, and as such is a violation of the voting privilege. | | | | Lutz |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 7 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree to chibul. The 'on DVD' is totally obsolete and stupid. Nonetheless it's there, so it CAN be added. Typical example for Neutral vote and personalized and locked profile, I guess. That's how i proceed in this and similar cases. | | | | Last edited: by BeverlyHillsFan |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Adding "on DVD" is beyond idiocy IMO. Of course it's "on DVD"...duh. But, since it is on the cover, there is nothing to prevent one from adding it...other than common sense  . A no vote in this instance would be a violation of the voting rules. Vote neutral and lock your title  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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