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| Registered: September 30, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | Did the actual use of the entire sound credit (sound, sound recording, sound recordist, sound supervisor, recorded by) get changed at one point to no longer use it if there's a Production Sound Mixer credited?
Didn't it just used to very specifically be "recordist" that didn't get entered when a Production Sound Mixer was credited?
And speaking of that, when did "recordist" get removed from the crew chart? And was there a specific reason it got removed? A thread I missed somewhere or something? | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes it did get changed.
Now for a little history. The sound category was never intended to be a catch all, it focused on actual sound credit, which was used in the early days of film up to about 1965, further research over time moved 1965 to about 1983. Then lo and behold Hollywood brought back a sound credit in some contemporary shows. That's the history, what was done was done by Ken. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: September 30, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | So I guess the submissions to remove the sound credit where there's a PSM credited are correct. Huh. Good thing I hadn't voted no yet.  | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Merrik: Quote:
Did the actual use of the entire sound credit (sound, sound recording, sound recordist, sound supervisor, recorded by) get changed at one point to no longer use it if there's a Production Sound Mixer credited? Yes. Quote:
Didn't it just used to very specifically be "recordist" that didn't get entered when a Production Sound Mixer was credited? No, this was a misunderstanding caused by the fact that the the credit of recordist and the note were added, thus highlighted, at the same time. Quote:
And speaking of that, when did "recordist" get removed from the crew chart? And was there a specific reason it got removed? A thread I missed somewhere or something? I honestly don't know. Had you not just mentioned it, I probably wouldn't have noticed. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Beyond the history I gave you and reading Martians post I am a bit flummoxed at trying to figure out what the answer is. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | If we kill sound recordist, that makes The Wizard of Oz a silent picture essentially. It has one sound credit...sound recordist. I don't believe that is what we want to achieve, at least its not what I envisioned but..... | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sound Recordist is still listed as a valid role to list under "Sound" according to the crew chart. You're just not supposed to list this person if there's a PSM credited. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually the mere "Recordist" (without the leading "Sound") was never listed.
I can remember several discussions if this would be an allowed entry anyway. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
Actually the mere "Recordist" (without the leading "Sound") was never listed.
I can remember several discussions if this would be an allowed entry anyway. Actually, according to this post by Pete, it was. My recollection of the recordist credit, and the new note, being added, thus highlighted at the same time, was reinforced by this thread. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: September 30, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Lewis_Prothero:
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Actually the mere "Recordist" (without the leading "Sound") was never listed.
I can remember several discussions if this would be an allowed entry anyway.
Actually, according to this post by Pete, it was.
My recollection of the recordist credit, and the new note, being added, thus highlighted at the same time, was reinforced by this thread. It definitely was at one point. I have a printed copy of the rules (makes it easier to just quickly check when I need to) where recordist is listed. I've apparently listed a few sound credits wrong in my database. I was always under the impression it was just "recordist" that wasn't supposed to be listed when a PSM was credited. Dammit!  Just when I think I'm gettin' ahead.... Well, at least now I know. Thanks to everyone for info! | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Glad to try and help. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Lewis_Prothero:
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Actually the mere "Recordist" (without the leading "Sound") was never listed.
I can remember several discussions if this would be an allowed entry anyway.
Actually, according to this post by Pete, it was.
My recollection of the recordist credit, and the new note, being added, thus highlighted at the same time, was reinforced by this thread. Ooops, must have missed the period when it was listed. Sorry. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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