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| Registered: April 7, 2007 |  Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | I had a Bluray in my collection with a wrong EAN. It had a "0" as prefix and someone contributed a "Delte this Disc and choose the correct EAN" without leading "0".
So i did and saw, that pretty all information where missing in the new profile. So i copied them from the old release to the new and add the following to the contribution notes:
"all data from existing and approved bluray-release (0-886919-929799)"
The contribution was declined with no reasons given. It just says:
"Profile Contribution Declined Dec 29 2012 5:50PM"
I hope the Decider of this Decline reads this and gives an answer ... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't know if this is the reason... but maybe it is because the profile you pointed to was deleted? So when the screener looked for the one you pointed to, there wasn't one any longer. It kinda makes sense to me at least. If I was a screener and someone pointed me to a non-existent profile I would also decline it. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting F1Database: Quote:
"all data from existing and approved bluray-release (0-886919-929799)" As Pete said, the problem here is, that the profile you copied the data from has just been disapproved. Subsequently all data in this profile is considered to be incorrect and/or non-existent (if already deleted from maindatabase). One might even argue that the word "Release" in your notes is incorrect too, since there never was an actual Release with the EAN you linked to. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | What the previous users said is correct, I suspect. One thing , don't lean on the word approved too much, lean on the rules. I see people making comments all the time about something being previously approved, so why is it being changed. Usually its because whatever is being changed is consistent with the rules, while the original was not. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
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| Registered: April 7, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | But just the ean changed. The disc itself is the same. Disc-IDs are identicall. even overview etc ...
The disc and all its data are approved. and other people have voted ok ... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | But the problem is... you are pointing them to a source that just don't exist in the database any longer. So they go looking for the source you gave... and there they find absolutely nothing. It makes perfect sense that they decline something without a source they can check. They have no idea where the old non-existing profile got it's information. The more I personally think about it... why would they accept such a thing... the votes don't matter if there is no source there. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: April 7, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | And how can i find out who deleted the profile?
Then he should contribute the now missing information ...
By the way.
The time i contributed the changed the other profile did existed. but later not anymore.
What can i do if they wait so long for an contribution review? | | | | Last edited: by F1Database |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | its not important who deleted the file. What is important is that it was properly deleted. With the little info provided it is hard to know for sure, but it sounds to me like a bit of a too quick on the draw.
Anyone who has been collecting DVDs for awhile knows or should that there can be multiple upcs released for any given title. Do you see a upc that does not match yours, you may erroneously presume it to be bad and request removal, this could be a bad thing. But you should not be focused on what you contributed, but on what upc you are holding in your hand. That is all you should be concerned with. So a new profile has to be created. It would nit be the first or last time a pre release upc was wrong or even pirated from a previously released title.. keep your focus where it belongs, what you have in your hand. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting F1Database: Quote:
And how can i find out who deleted the profile?
Then he should contribute the now missing information ... No way that I know of... and while it would be nice... I don't really see it as their responsibility to update the existing profile just because the other one was more complete. Quoting F1Database: Quote:
By the way.
The time i contributed the changed the other profile did existed. but later not anymore.
What can i do if they wait so long for an contribution review? While I can see this... looking back it is pretty obvious that the one that is being deleted wouldn't still be there by the time they get to your update. After all we know the time they have profiles up for review. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting F1Database: Quote:
I had a Bluray in my collection with a wrong EAN. It had a "0" as prefix and someone contributed a "Delte this Disc and choose the correct EAN" without leading "0". ...
The contribution was declined with no reasons given. It just says: "Profile Contribution Declined Dec 29 2012 5:50PM" You shall not invent profiles - one of the Ten Commandments. To support an invented profile is a deadly sin, and will be punished accordingly. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don't blame f1, bbbbb. I have seen many times where a pre release IOC was different on release day. Stuff happens. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | again another reason why our data base is in disarray ...............  | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
again another reason why our data base is in disarray ............... Boy, terry s comment like that. I can't disagree. But not for lack of my own attempts to help and avoid as much as we can.<sigh> | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: April 7, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
Quoting F1Database:
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I had a Bluray in my collection with a wrong EAN. It had a "0" as prefix and someone contributed a "Delte this Disc and choose the correct EAN" without leading "0". ...
The contribution was declined with no reasons given. It just says: "Profile Contribution Declined Dec 29 2012 5:50PM"
You shall not invent profiles - one of the Ten Commandments. To support an invented profile is a deadly sin, and will be punished accordingly. I often add profiles via name to the database and not via ean. for example when i order them online. for example at amazon or ebay. you dont have a ean there. And when they arrive i dont check the ean always ... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Always use the upc/ran, f1, always. Our primary data key is the upc/ran not the title. There are sites that do use the. Upc/ean | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 23, 2007 |  Posts: 97 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting F1Database: Quote:
Quoting bbbbb:
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Quoting F1Database:
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I had a Bluray in my collection with a wrong EAN. It had a "0" as prefix and someone contributed a "Delte this Disc and choose the correct EAN" without leading "0". ...
The contribution was declined with no reasons given. It just says: "Profile Contribution Declined Dec 29 2012 5:50PM"
You shall not invent profiles - one of the Ten Commandments. To support an invented profile is a deadly sin, and will be punished accordingly.
I often add profiles via name to the database and not via ean. for example when i order them online. for example at amazon or ebay. you dont have a ean there.
And when they arrive i dont check the ean always ... If you download the plugin from this page http://www.invelos.com/Downloads.aspx?display=plugins third one down this will help when you order from amazon as it uses the ASIN codes that amazon use and then changes them in to the local UPC's |
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