Why would we want to use IMDB or any other online source when we are supposed to get all this info from the actual release?

I know that I for one wouldn't want online source info for anything that we are able to get from the disc, case of film.

I don't know why some people want to create another IMDb clone. Don't we have enough of those already? If I want IMDb, I go to the source. If I want the info from the DVD, I go to Profiler. Let's keep them separated please.

Quoting darrylg2:

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I just thought of a possible solution to the problem of using copyrighted material from any Internet source

So did I.  Don't use it, problem solved.

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I don't like the idea of trying to circumvent copyrighted material.

Although I use IMDb a lot, I don't see invelos adapting this change.

Many people have expressed their desire to see invelos develop a better linking system with regards to Cast and Crew. I don't know if or when invelos will decide to take steps to address this issue.

Quoting surfeur51:

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I totally disagree. Even if we can find some errors in IMDb, 99,9% of actors or crew members link correctly. In Invelos database, we find thousands of variants for same actors that do not link together, and hundreds of same name without birth year that incorrectly link different actors or crew members.

Don't mix up cause and effect:
One of the main reasons for "our" system not quite working as expected are contributors that, even though explicitly prohibited, are contributing IMDb infested material. By this they are messing up the CLT, which as end-effect prevents correct linking.
As example you may want to take a look at the "Take Shelter" profiles in the database. Obviously the contributor of the first profile copied IMDb data. Now a funny effect begins: Since "cloning" of accepted profiles is allowed the incorrectness of the first profile now spreads through the maindatabase. Currently none of the profiles for this title is "correct". For Germany an update by SwissFilm is pending which will correct the errors.

Completely agree on the (widely known) problems of the Birthyear concept.
But unless the owner of this database does change this concept, we'd have to live with it.

I'm with surfeur51 and TraunStaa.

While IMDB is good at linking they tend to be incorrect in regards to role names since they mine that data with their own that doesn't come from the actual credits.

While IMDB is a good source, they also sometimes split a person's credits between two instead of just one.
For example.
David Bruce

Actor
BY=?
Joyeux Noel (2005)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2700039/

Actor
BY=?
G.I. Jane (1997)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0115458/

Notice that the second one also includes Joyeux Noel in his filmography. Thus very likely they are really the same person and not two.


Ken said he was working on a better linking system, but it's been a long time without an update on it's progress.

I know that Ken has a difficult job in front of him.
I know that I give up trying to find a common name if I come across a name with many variants. Such as Robert, which could be Rob, Bob, R., B, or Bobby or Bobbie. And that gets more confusing and difficult when multiple people have that same name.

Then single names can be anything from an actor, porn actor or even an animal cast member.

So here we are after years of using DVD Profiler and still the linking is a mess even with many trying their best to fix it by contributing corrected profiles. So to expect Ken to fix it quickly is a bit much imo.

The best we can do is do our best and work within the system we have now. Just like IMDB isn't 100% correct, neither will the DVD Profiler database be. All we can do is make it the best that is humanly possible.

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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... I personally just can't see searching for and taking info from the net when the info is right there in your hand.

Info that we have in our hand is rarely an overview, and very frequently just advertising or spoilers. So, to have correct overview, you have to enter something you write yourself (that is generally what I do), or take somewhere from the net. Though I agree IMDb is not the best for this purpose, at least the DVD back cover is, by far, the worst.