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When adding title, rating for Unrated shows as NC-17
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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Here's a screenshot to demonstrate what I'm talking about:



Now, when the title is actually added, the rating is correct (i.e. Unrated).
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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It's because of a bad decision taken some years ago that "unrated" equals "NC-17"... Funny how nobody took me seriously when I said that it will cause a lot of trouble
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Not sure how it's a lot of trouble as the profile does say Unrated when downloaded... Not that dramatic.   
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Quoting Jimmy S:
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It's because of a bad decision taken some years ago that "unrated" equals "NC-17"... Funny how nobody took me seriously when I said that it will cause a lot of trouble


I think it's *more* of a problem outside the US. It appears to me when a US studio decides not to rate something it's because it will get a high/NC-17 rating. In other countries titles may not be rated for lots of other reasons... For example, in the UK, before DVDP added 'Exempt' (wihich isn't a legitimate BBFC classification but is used widely by distributors on the case, deliberately in the same image style as other rating logos) unrated usually meant educational or music.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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Quoting TheMovieman:
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Not sure how it's a lot of trouble as the profile does say Unrated when downloaded... Not that dramatic.   

I know but that make me feel like an old man telling "I told you so" while shaking my hand
Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Unrated and NC-17 are not the same rating.  What you're seeing is the result of an intermittent bug that affects ratings in general.  It's fixed in 3.8.1.  After installing 3.8.1, do a full refresh of the online profile list to correct the display. (Hold CTRL while selecting Online->Refresh Online Profile List)
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Sorry but I remember perfectly well they were consider the same when that was discussed in the multiple locked thread a couple of years ago... Telling it's a bug is a nice way to rewrite history.
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Sorry but I remember perfectly well they were consider the same when that was discussed in the multiple locked thread a couple of years ago... Telling it's a bug is a nice way to rewrite history.

They are not the same thing.  You can verify for yourself by doing a full refresh from the online list (via holding CTRL as you select the Online->Refresh Online Profile List option).  If you do that, they will show correctly in your Add by Title list, even in version 3.8.0.  You will see entries that are NC-17 show as NC-17, Adult show as Adult, and Unrated show as Unrated.

When you do a partial download (a normal daily download), the program merges the updates into your existing list.  The bug in 3.8.0 is in this merge code.  It only partially copies the rating information, so in fact several ratings can get confused.

That is the bug that's fixed in 3.8.1.  No history rewriting required.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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For further information, the bug also confuses "R18+" with "X18+" in Australia, "S" with "T" in Finland, "G" with "E" in Russia, etc.  All of these cases and more are corrected by the fix in 3.8.1.  Unrated/NC-17 in the US is only one example.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Quoting Voltaire53:
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Quoting Jimmy S:
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It's because of a bad decision taken some years ago that "unrated" equals "NC-17"... Funny how nobody took me seriously when I said that it will cause a lot of trouble


I think it's *more* of a problem outside the US. It appears to me when a US studio decides not to rate something it's because it will get a high/NC-17 rating. In other countries titles may not be rated for lots of other reasons... For example, in the UK, before DVDP added 'Exempt' (wihich isn't a legitimate BBFC classification but is used widely by distributors on the case, deliberately in the same image style as other rating logos) unrated usually meant educational or music.


"Unrated" is only a rating in the US.  You may be thinking of "Not Rated," which is not the same thing and has no associated rating age.
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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"Unrated" is only a rating in the US.  You may be thinking of "Not Rated," which is not the same thing and has no associated rating age.


You're right, I was - my error.
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