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| Registered: February 10, 2008 |  Posts: 244 |
| | Posted: | | | | The (music section) credits list:
Music by
BEN VAUGHN and JEFF SUDAKIN
"That '70s Song"
Based on "In The Street" by
ALEX CHILTON
and CHRIS BELL
Performed by
CHEAP TRICK
As Ben Vaughn and Jeff Sudakin get the Composers credit in dvd profiler my question is: Do Alex Chilton and Chris Bell get the "Theme by" Credit? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 767 |
| | Posted: | | | | I wouldn't include them. Unlike the writer credits, there isn't an "Original material by" in the music credits. That's my opinion, though. Also, I prefer the original song by Big Star,but that's a different discussion  |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | "Based On" indicates that the song wasn't specifically written for this show, so: No entry in DVDProfiler. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agreed: not written directly for the show, so no entry. |
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| Registered: February 10, 2008 | | Posts: 244 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok, so be it. Thanx for the fast response guys  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
"Based On" indicates that the song wasn't specifically written for this show, so: No entry in DVDProfiler. Since the question is whether to give credit for theme or not, this is irrelevant. The rules does not ask for it to be written exclusively for the show to give a theme credit. | | | 
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting reybr: Quote:
Quoting Lewis_Prothero:
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"Based On" indicates that the song wasn't specifically written for this show, so: No entry in DVDProfiler.
Since the question is whether to give credit for theme or not, this is irrelevant. The rules does not ask for it to be written exclusively for the show to give a theme credit. I thought you were mistaken so I double checked the rules and you are indeed correct. Although there are requirements for Composer and Song Writer, outlined in the Incorrect Roles and Notes sections, there are no such restrictions for Theme By. Therefore, based on the rules chart, Theme By credits are allowed even if they were not written specifically for that show. |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MakoDeth: Quote:
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As Ben Vaughn and Jeff Sudakin get the Composers credit in dvd profiler my question is: Do Alex Chilton and Chris Bell get the "Theme by" Credit? I won't argue if this will be an Theme by credit or not, but if this would get an Theme by credit, wouldn't "Cheap Trick" get the credit? | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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| Registered: December 22, 2008 |  Posts: 87 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
I won't argue if this will be an Theme by credit or not, but if this would get an Theme by credit, wouldn't "Cheap Trick" get the credit? Do we track the writers of a Theme or the performers? As far as I am aware, it's the former. Courage gets on Trek the theme credit for writing the music, not for the performance, as he sure was not a one-man orchestra... So going by this, only those who wrote the theme music get a credit, even if the theme has been altered to the original piece. And like Kathy pointed out correctly: the rules don't say the theme has to be an original work for a series. The producers may license any piece of music they like for the theme of their show – and it's still the Theme in the sense we track it in DVDP. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Therefore, based on the rules chart, Theme By credits are allowed even if they were not written specifically for that show. While this is true, the credit in question isn't a 'Theme By' credit. The credit simply says that the theme was based on a song written by other people, not that they wrote the actual theme. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | This constant desire by some to try and find a way around the rules is just nutty. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Kathy:
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Therefore, based on the rules chart, Theme By credits are allowed even if they were not written specifically for that show.
While this is true, the credit in question isn't a 'Theme By' credit. The credit simply says that the theme was based on a song written by other people, not that they wrote the actual theme. I was not answering the question regarding the 70s Show credit with my comment. I had always thought a Theme By credit had to be specifically written for a show. Thanks to reybr I learned something new. This was the only thing I was addressing with my post. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
I was not answering the question regarding the 70s Show credit with my comment.
I had always thought a Theme By credit had to be specifically written for a show. Thanks to reybr I learned something new. This was the only thing I was addressing with my post. Thanks for the carification as I did misunderstand. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would give theme by to Chilton & Bell. The 1st verse and music is from the original In the Street, after that Cheap Trick changed the lyrics. I would venture a guess the TV execs weren't to keen on "Stealing a car" and "wish I had a joint" which are in the original 2nd verse lyrics. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
I would give theme by to Chilton & Bell. The 1st verse and music is from the original In the Street, after that Cheap Trick changed the lyrics. I would venture a guess the TV execs weren't to keen on "Stealing a car" and "wish I had a joint" which are in the original 2nd verse lyrics. Unfortunately, I don't think we can based on the credit given. 'Based on' does not equal 'Theme by'...at least in my opinion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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