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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was going to contribute the actress's Birth Year which is 1980.
Doing a CLT search I found that someone has already submitted one for the Destiny's Child member.
For example, the Destiny's Child: World Tour (UPC#828767-284996) profile already has the 1980 BY attached.
So the problem is is that both share the same Birth Year.
What to do? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
What to do? Wait for Ken to re-design the whole Cast & Crew linking system. Don't hold your breath though. |
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| Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,441 |
| | Posted: | | | | From CLT:
"Destiny's Child" is credited in 14 titles (18 profiles)
"Michelle Williams" is credited in 165 titles (681 profiles)
but only 8 title for the Michelle Williams (1980)
So her common name should be Destiny's Child | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
From CLT:
"Destiny's Child" is credited in 14 titles (18 profiles)
"Michelle Williams" is credited in 165 titles (681 profiles)
but only 8 title for the Michelle Williams (1980)
So her common name should be Destiny's Child What common name has to do with BY? You do understand that Destiny's Child is a group of girls and one member is Michelle Williams? So if she's credited Michelle Williams, Michelle Williams it is. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Locally I use Tenitra Michelle Williams and Michelle Ingrid Williams to separate them. Or did, as I no longer own any music titles with Destiny's Child. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,441 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting Kluge:
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From CLT:
"Destiny's Child" is credited in 14 titles (18 profiles)
"Michelle Williams" is credited in 165 titles (681 profiles)
but only 8 title for the Michelle Williams (1980)
So her common name should be Destiny's Child
What common name has to do with BY? You do understand that Destiny's Child is a group of girls and one member is Michelle Williams? So if she's credited Michelle Williams, Michelle Williams it is. Tenitra Michelle William is credited as Destiny's Child in 13 title and as Michelle Williams in 8 title, so we should use Destiny's Child as common name per rules. I know that this is not the best solution and I prefer to use locally the KinoNiki solution, but the rule say to use the common name. | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Destiny's Child (Michelle Williams) for the singer? Glad I own nothing with them.  Or we could always leave the BY off the singer, and seperate that way. This sounds like a rare case where the BY makes them seem more the same person instead of seperating them. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
Tenitra Michelle William is credited as Destiny's Child in 13 title and as Michelle Williams in 8 title, so we should use Destiny's Child as common name per rules. I know that this is not the best solution and I prefer to use locally the KinoNiki solution, but the rule say to use the common name. But... they are two different things. The other one is person (part of the group) and the other one is a group. Can you give me an example from such credit? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting Kluge:
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Tenitra Michelle William is credited as Destiny's Child in 13 title and as Michelle Williams in 8 title, so we should use Destiny's Child as common name per rules. I know that this is not the best solution and I prefer to use locally the KinoNiki solution, but the rule say to use the common name.
But... they are two different things. The other one is person (part of the group) and the other one is a group. Can you give me an example from such credit? I just went through the CLT results and all of them are for the GROUP, not for the individual PERSON. This is beyond ridiculous. |
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| Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,441 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
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Tenitra Michelle William is credited as Destiny's Child in 13 title and as Michelle Williams in 8 title, so we should use Destiny's Child as common name per rules. I know that this is not the best solution and I prefer to use locally the KinoNiki solution, but the rule say to use the common name.
But... they are two different things. The other one is person (part of the group) and the other one is a group. Can you give me an example from such credit?
I just went through the CLT results and all of them are for the GROUP, not for the individual PERSON. This is beyond ridiculous.    I don't think so. Anyway, in this case the better solution is the local use of birth names. | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | In your first example the actual credit is Destiny's Child (propably in actual credits it's Directed by Destiny's Child) and the contributor have separated the members, so again it's the group, not a person.
And what comes to two latter examples, how do you know which one of the Destiny's Childs that credit means (if not all of them)? And on top of that, even if all these credits actually mean just Michelle Williams, it's not enough to change her common name to Destiny's Child.
There just isn't a way to profile this one correctly. |
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| Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,441 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
In your first example the actual credit is Destiny's Child (propably in actual credits it's Directed by Destiny's Child) and the contributor have separated the members, so again it's the group, not a person.
And what comes to two latter examples, how do you know which one of the Destiny's Childs that credit means (if not all of them)? And on top of that, even if all these credits actually mean just Michelle Williams, it's not enough to change her common name to Destiny's Child.
There just isn't a way to profile this one correctly. It's just like Andy e Larry Wachowski [Wachowski Brothers] or Albert and Allen Hughes [Huges Brothers] and so on... | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
It's just like Andy e Larry Wachowski [Wachowski Brothers] or Albert and Allen Hughes [Huges Brothers] and so on... And your point is? Their common name isn't eather Wachowski Brothers or Huges Brothers and neather is Destiny's Child = Michelle Williams. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
I just went through the CLT results and all of them are for the GROUP, not for the individual PERSON. This is beyond ridiculous. Yea, I have to agree. Michelle Williams is not being credited as 'Destiny's Child' in those profiles, the group is being credited. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
It's just like Andy e Larry Wachowski [Wachowski Brothers] or Albert and Allen Hughes [Huges Brothers] and so on... No, it is not the same thing. In the case of the Wachowski Brothers, Andy and Larry are the Wachowski brothers. Michelle Williams is not Destiny's Child. In addition, when the Wachowski Brothers work together, they are credited as such. When they work alone, they are credited, and entered, using their individual names. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,441 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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It's just like Andy e Larry Wachowski [Wachowski Brothers] or Albert and Allen Hughes [Huges Brothers] and so on...
No, it is not the same thing. In the case of the Wachowski Brothers, Andy and Larry are the Wachowski brothers. Michelle Williams is not Destiny's Child. In addition, when the Wachowski Brothers work together, they are credited as such. When they work alone, they are credited, and entered, using their individual names. OK, so which one of these contributions is wrong:  | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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