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A wiki would be far easier to organize than forum threads for purposes of tracking birth years and common names and greatly reduce the work required to check if you're submitting good data.

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I just love threads such ad this while on the surface have some merit, are the same time utter nonsense.  Who is. Going to take on this project, with invelos' support, surely you don't expect ken to do it. He has his hands quite full enough. There wad a time I would have been willing to do it for free,  I took on a major job to a aid what I today view as an ungrateful community, ivhave the time and the skills to do it, but nope. Who would be willing to do this task and expose themsrlvrs tovthe wrath of what is decidedly s minority of users, but a very noisy and nasty bunch. Will invelos aspire it under a user, I doubt it, ivwouldn't if it were me. But it foes have some merit..

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If someone were to set up a wiki for birth years, what form would it need to take?

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Could both of these update a forum thread within Invelos on a regular basis?

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Desktop version 3.7.2 will soon begin beta testing, with some desktop fixes and iOS sync improvements. iOS version 1.1.0 will also be submitted to Apple this week for release alongside 3.7.2.  We have a small number of users who have run into some specific conditions that are not allowing them to use the application at all.  Identifying and correcting these issues has been my top priority. 

Now that this is complete, I can return my focus to version 3.8, which is already in progress.

Version 3.8 will begin the process of improving our cast and crew entry and linking system.  At present, we have removed the First/Middle/Last name system and replaced it with Given Name and Surname.  On a member-by-member basis, the default display order for these can be reversed (commonly used for Asian names).  In anticipation of this, DVD Profiler for iOS already uses this name system - Given Name and Surname.

We anticipate this will reduce the parsing issues.  Although a single field for names would go farther, functionality would be lost, such as the ability to display names as "Surname, Given Name", and to sort lists by Surname. 

Although I think this is a step in the right direction, I realize we have a ways to go.  I've drawn up several potential directions we can head from here, based in part on suggestions made by the community, but a clear single path is not yet apparent. 

It's time to open the discussion and hammer this out.  So, use this thread as a repository for credit linking system ideas.  If you have a partial idea, please feel free to share it as such.  If you've previously posted an idea, feel free to link to the prior discussion, but please also include a complete synopsis here.

If you post an idea, be prepared for positive and negative feedback.  We won't be vetoing anything, but everyone will be encouraged (ourselves included) to shoot holes as needed, in a polite and civil manner.

We will not be throwing the baby out with the bath water.  Any replacement system must support the base functionality of the current system, and must maintain the linking work that has already been put into our database.  Ideally any replacement system will also improve upon the current system:

- Eliminate the birth year in the online database
- Eliminate the CLT as a name determination tool
- Allow entry of properly accented and formatted names
- Require no changes to existing profiles when an actor changes names (e.g actress gets married)

Please keep this conversation on topic and civil so we can leave it in the general contribution discussion forum and get the widest feedback possible.  Moderation in this thread will be strict.