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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Was wondering what is the standard for archive footage. JFK has footage in the film from the 60's. People in the news footage are listed in the profile credits. I've seen other profiles that credit people from archive footage. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just read the thread. I hate when they end and there is no decision. I agree with the straw vote results. But I don't follow straw votes. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally I don't list them as they don't perform in the film per se. But I do my things alone, so I don't really check the rules (even if I follow them in my database). |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Jimmy S: Quote:
Personally I don't list them as they don't perform in the film per se. But I do my things alone, so I don't really check the rules (even if I follow them in my database). I have been doing edits and find I lock more than I contribute. So I'll probably remove them in my local. JFK just has to many uncredited from archive footage. |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | It has always been my understanding that we do not include archive footage.
As far as I can remember any profile contributed removing this data has been accepted.
Although people may have added archive footage, and had it approved, it has been so long I don't remember it.
I would vote "yes" on their removal and "no" on their addition and let the screeners decide. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
It has always been my understanding that we do not include archive footage. This is my understanding as well. The only exceptions being flash back episodes where archival footage from the actual show is inserted into the episode. Historical figures, however, do not get listed as they aren't actors in the film. Documentaries might be another exception... | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: September 30, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've removed them in every case I've come across (most recent was an audit to remove James Stewart from a profile, I can't for the life of me remember the film at the moment, but I believe It's a Wonderful Life was playing on the tv in the film). I've never had a single no vote, and I've removed a lot. I did an update to profiles for JFK, Nixon and Malcolm X, all of which had massive amounts of archived footage credits (shockingly, cloned from IMDB), and received votes in the double digits on all of the profiles, and not a single no vote was thrown my way for removing these.
I personally can't think of a single good reason to include them. | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just don't try removing "Robbie the Robot" from anything, people love him and will fight to keep him in.  It already happened at least once, I just can't remember which title it was for, but it wasn't one he was really in, just a background sighting. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Merrik: Quote:
I personally can't think of a single good reason to include them. Tough I agree not to contribute them, I keep them in my local database. The "good reason" is that I can see them when I watch the movie. When the director decided to include archive footage in his film, he, in fact, added images that became part of the movie. And if we refuse archive footage, we also should refuse parts which were filmed for other movies. Some examples: - during a movie, we see on a TV another one. - flash-backs coming from a previous movie in the serie (Godfather part II with images from Part I (just an example)) - photos in a frame of an actor of a previous movie in a serie when the character is supposed to be dead in this episode... In all those cases, I have already seen actors credited as uncredited in dvdprofiler profiles. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | And don't try to remove Hitchcock cameos, even if it's just a photo. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting Merrik:
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I personally can't think of a single good reason to include them.
Tough I agree not to contribute them, I keep them in my local database. The "good reason" is that I can see them when I watch the movie. When the director decided to include archive footage in his film, he, in fact, added images that became part of the movie.
And if we refuse archive footage, we also should refuse parts which were filmed for other movies.
Some examples:
- during a movie, we see on a TV another one.
- flash-backs coming from a previous movie in the serie (Godfather part II with images from Part I (just an example))
- photos in a frame of an actor of a previous movie in a serie when the character is supposed to be dead in this episode...
In all those cases, I have already seen actors credited as uncredited in dvdprofiler profiles. I think I'll be safe not to contribute them, remove them, or vote if they are in a new contribution. But I'm going to remove them from my local. |
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