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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCorne
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When the composer of the original film is credited for the "Main Title" of the original film in the song credits of a remake, is that a "Theme By" credit?

A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010):

"Main Title" and "Jump Rope" from A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Written By Charles Bernstein

Charles Bernstein = "Theme By" ?
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Looks like a songwriter credit to me.
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Quoting hal9g:
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Looks like a songwriter credit to me.

No, they can't ever be "song writer" credits, since that's only to be used for original songs, written especially for the movie. Since they were written for a previous movie, they're not original anymore, meaning they cannot qualify for "song writer" again when the songs are re-used in a remake.
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Looks like a songwriter credit to me.


Like T!M said, it's no song writer credit because it's not for a song written for this remake but Charles Bernstein is the composer of the original film.

So the 2010 film credit is a song credit for the A Nightmare in Elm Street theme:



I found an old topic about the same issue but for another film: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=459826
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Common sense tells me it's theme, but the wording tells me some users won't like it.
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Common sense tells me it's theme, but the wording tells me some users won't like it.


Yep. But thanks to Corne for bringing it up. I'll be adding it locally.
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Your "Theme by" interpretation is the Music credit, which could match best, but without the wording, I wouldn't add it.
But I'm not a specialist in what is making something to a "Theme" and who would get "Theme by" job in DVDP.

The Composer of the Score is Steve Jablonsky and I think he re-used many titles of the older Nightmare on Elm's Street movies.

A bit off-topic, some nice pic of the Score recording:
http://www.scoringsessions.com/news/216/
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The main issue with NoES is that the Charles Bernstein tracks are listed within the song section and neither states 'Theme by' etc.

I have personally credited them as songwriters locally; but I don't think Theme is correct as per the actual film credits.

Just my opinion.
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Common sense tells me it's theme, but the wording tells me some users won't like it.



Agreed.  I wouldn't vote No to this being submitted under Theme, but I'm pretty sure some would.
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I feel the same way as gardibolt.
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Sequels, Prequels and/or Movies based on Television Series (or the other way around TV Series based on movies) use and re-use regularly Themes of their predecessors. So ouf course we use the "Theme By" credit in such a case. It would be meaningless to ask for a new original Theme for every movie, as this completely contradicts the purpose of a Theme.

So Charles Bernstein gets a "Theme By" credit for Nightmare 2010, same as Alexander Courage gets the credit for the original Star Trek Theme re-used in Trek 2009, or Jerry Goldsmith for the re-used TNG Theme (first used some ten years earlier in Trek 1979).

"Theme [insert additional information] Written by" is a Theme credit for obvious movie connections. Of course you have to think twice, if some spoof would use Themes from spoofed movies and give credit for those. Personally I would never include those credits, but until now I haven't thought about what I should vote in such a case. I don't see anything in the Contribution Rules, that would forbid the inclusion of such credits, so the proper vote seems to be "Yes", even if I feel very uncomfortable with that.
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Common sense tells me it's theme, but the wording tells me some users won't like it.

Sounds like theme by to me as well because the 'main title' song is the theme.  But, as you say, there will be some users who will take issue with it.
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Here are the details for the original soundtrack of A Nightmare on Elm Street.

Check out the track listing of the first CD listed (Colosseum VSD (CVS) 47255)

I used to own this CD. There are no songs on this soundtrack. It contains selections from the film scores of Part I by Charles Bernstein and Part II by Christopher Young.

Both Main Title and Jump rope are themes. For me, a Theme by credit would work.
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Unfortunately my contribution got declined. I had added a link to this topic in my notes, but too bad.
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