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Ability to track Main Feature rating if different to DVD rating |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | From this post, it seems like some users would like the ability to also profile Main Feature ratings if it's different to the DVD rating. Example -  This only applies to certain localities, the UK being one. I think this could be useful to some people who will allow their children/grand-children/etc... to watch say a 12 rated film but not a 15. At the moment, we only track the DVD rating so they could easily miss various titles. Thoughts? |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Makes perfect sense to me, Forget! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | IF done right... it could also be used to capture both when there is a rated and unrated version on the same disc. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,741 |
| | Posted: | | | | Something like this:
Primary Feature Rating
Summary Rating
In case there are four episodes, 3 with FSK-12 and one with FSK-16 it would be PFR = SR = FSK-16.
In case the movie is rated FSK-12 (LOTR 1) but the bonus is FSK-16 it would be PFR = FSK-12, SR = FSK-16 | | | Karsten
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| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | +1 | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,195 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
From this post, it seems like some users would like the ability to also profile Main Feature ratings if it's different to the DVD rating.
I was under the impression that we always tracked the main feature. Everything else in the profile relfects the main feature, why not the rating?  If the bonus material have its own disc profile, it can have its own rating, but not otherwise. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
| | Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't know how it is in other countries, but in Germany the problematic is: If a movie is FSK 12 but contains trailers/extras that are FSK 16, the whole DVD gets the higher rating (in my example FSK 16) Something like your example I've never seen on a German DVD. But there will be some users that would in such cases use your new option to add the two ratings even if they would take the movie rating from a different source. But in general I would say, if useful for other countries: +1 from my side.  |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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From this post, it seems like some users would like the ability to also profile Main Feature ratings if it's different to the DVD rating.
I was under the impression that we always tracked the main feature. Everything else in the profile relfects the main feature, why not the rating?
If the bonus material have its own disc profile, it can have its own rating, but not otherwise. As per the example I gave above, the actual movie is rated a 12. On the same disc, the bonus features are rated 15 so the whole disc is rated 15. Here in the UK, it's the whole disc that gets rated, not just the main feature. Even animated menus are checked by the BBFC! Generally, the feature will be the highest rating but there are exceptions. |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
I don't know how it is in other countries, but in Germany the problematic is:
If a movie is FSK 12 but contains trailers/extras that are FSK 16, the whole DVD gets the higher rating (in my example FSK 16)
Something like your example I've never seen on a German DVD.
But there will be some users that would in such cases use your new option to add the two ratings even if they would take the movie rating from a different source.
But in general I would say, if useful for other countries: +1 from my side. That actually sounds exactly the same. The main feature is FSK 12, the extras are FSK 16 so the DVD gets FSK 16. That's the same as my example where the feature is 12 & the extras are 15 so the DVD is 15. From a purchasing point of view, the buyer needs to be 15 but from a feature perspective, it's suitable for 12 or over. IMHO, there should be a DVDP field for tracking both for the reason I gave in the OP. |
| | Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
Quoting VirusPil:
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I don't know how it is in other countries, but in Germany the problematic is:
If a movie is FSK 12 but contains trailers/extras that are FSK 16, the whole DVD gets the higher rating (in my example FSK 16)
Something like your example I've never seen on a German DVD.
But there will be some users that would in such cases use your new option to add the two ratings even if they would take the movie rating from a different source.
But in general I would say, if useful for other countries: +1 from my side.
That actually sounds exactly the same. The main feature is FSK 12, the extras are FSK 16 so the DVD gets FSK 16. That's the same as my example where the feature is 12 & the extras are 15 so the DVD is 15. From a purchasing point of view, the buyer needs to be 15 but from a feature perspective, it's suitable for 12 or over.
IMHO, there should be a DVDP field for tracking both for the reason I gave in the OP. But in you example (pic) the different ratings or on the cover. This is what I've never seen on one of my DVDs. So your example would match in some kind to the rule: "Use the Rating shown on the DVD cover." In my example there is no indication of the different ratings on cover. So the only way to add both ratings, would be with another source and not matching to the actual rule.  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,195 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
As per the example I gave above, the actual movie is rated a 12. On the same disc, the bonus features are rated 15 so the whole disc is rated 15. Here in the UK, it's the whole disc that gets rated, not just the main feature. Even animated menus are checked by the BBFC! So what does the line "Consumer advice applies to main feature only mean?" I think it means that's the rating we are after for our purposes, not the bonus rating. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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Quoting VirusPil:
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I don't know how it is in other countries, but in Germany the problematic is:
If a movie is FSK 12 but contains trailers/extras that are FSK 16, the whole DVD gets the higher rating (in my example FSK 16)
Something like your example I've never seen on a German DVD.
But there will be some users that would in such cases use your new option to add the two ratings even if they would take the movie rating from a different source.
But in general I would say, if useful for other countries: +1 from my side.
That actually sounds exactly the same. The main feature is FSK 12, the extras are FSK 16 so the DVD gets FSK 16. That's the same as my example where the feature is 12 & the extras are 15 so the DVD is 15. From a purchasing point of view, the buyer needs to be 15 but from a feature perspective, it's suitable for 12 or over.
IMHO, there should be a DVDP field for tracking both for the reason I gave in the OP.
But in you example (pic) the different ratings or on the cover. This is what I've never seen on one of my DVDs.
So your example would match in some kind to the rule: "Use the Rating shown on the DVD cover."
In my example there is no indication of the different ratings on cover. So the only way to add both ratings, would be with another source and not matching to the actual rule. Right sorry, I get you now. That is extra info on the cover. Here is the lower half which shows the main rating on the left (UK rating on the bottom).  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,195 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, a 12 rating would still be from the cover, but I see your point now. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: August 14, 2009 | | Posts: 25 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sounds like a useful feature for some countries, which would also work well in Germany if one would enter the main feature rating from a different source, e.g. the rating agency web page. Of course this would also mean an extension to the "from the cover" rule, or at least a clarification so that it applies for the DVD/BD rating. |
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