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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | there is no BY to be found
CLT results for
Pam Wise: 19 titles (79 profiles): this one includes both Pam Wise (editor) and Pam Wise (Costume Supervisor)
Pamela J. Wise: 1 titles (3 profiles): I have found 1 more that she was not contributed for
Pamela Wise: 3 titles (6 profiles):
If we are trying to fix the CLT, then some how we need to seporate the two people. The only thing is we can't do it by the birth year because there is none to be found. However if we go by as credited then the two Pam Wise's will be forever linked as one person and the CLT will always be wrong. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | When it comes to the CLT it don't matter anyway... as the CLT don't account for the year of birth anyway. so even if both has a birthyear you will still see both come up in the CLT. I brought this up to Ken a while back ago and last I heard he is still trying to see how to make it work... From this thread...Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Since you popped in... here is a question for you...
When I looked up Kevin Smith in the Look-up Tool it showed the results for both Kevin Smiths in the database (Ares on Xena and the one famous for Clerks and such movies)... is there any way you can get the look-up tool to consider the 2 different actors instead of having them both show up for the list?... maybe when you search the name it ask which we are talking about Kevin Smith (YOB) or Kevin Smith (YOB) and then just click on the one we mean? Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Currently the index is not built to consider birth years. I'll add it to my list for further investigation. The complication is that the lookup goes based on the Credited As field, which does not have a direct tie to birth year. The birth year is tied to the common name entered for that credit, which is not considered for the lookup tool. Still, possibly there's a way to make it work. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | the first part of your post just sunk in for me.  As for using credited as... This couldn't be done per Rules... atleast not without an exception from Ken/Gerri as the rules tells us we are to use the most commonly credited form. So the only hope to do what you say is to start a thread asking people to check all the titles to see what the most commonly credited form really is. And if it really is Pam Wise there is no more we can do at this time. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Something else that popped into my mind... you said... Quote:
Pamela Wise (Pam Wise) as costume supervisor (this will seperate the to because there is no BY) By how Ken has this set up (See where I quoted above) this will not separate them in the CLT anyway.... See ken's quote above... since the CLT looks at the Credited As field it will still show up in the CLT as Pam Wise. Or am I completely confused on what you are saying? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | By your quote from Ken it will not seporate the people in the CLT results but it does seporate them in the online data base per film credit. | | | | Last edited: by Dragon 6 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | ok.. But if Pamela Wise is not the most commonly name for her credits it would be against the rules so to do it then it would need an exception from Ken/Gerri. We can not decide by poll to ignore the rules. So I would put up a thread to determine her true most commonly credited form and hope it is not Pam Wise. If it is... there is nothing we ourselves can do about it. And would be up to Ken/Gerri. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Most common name for Pam Wise (editor) is Pam Wise
The Most common name for Pam Wise (costume supervisor) is Pam Wise
I know a pole does not change anything and it is up to Ken but to bring this problem up in the forum helps shed some light on the issue, so we can hopfully get Ken to fix it. If we don't we will continue to alow the data base to link to crew members as one person.
Here is the CLT Results:
Pam Wise: 19 titles (79 profiles): this one includes both Pam Wise (editor) and Pam Wise (Costume Supervisor)
Pamela J. Wise: 1 titles (3 profiles): I have found 1 more that she was not contributed for
Pamela Wise: 3 titles (6 profiles): | | | | Last edited: by Dragon 6 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well... if you are just trying to bring this problem to Ken's attention... 1. the first post should have clearly said that... as when I read it... it seemed to be asking if it should be contributed as using a different common name for each despite the rules. 2. Why the poll? All that was really needed is a post to Ken outlining the problem. Show Ken that it could not be fixed by neither YOB or Common name. But hey... that is just me... the way it reads to me.  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dragon 6: Quote:
The Most common name for Pam Wise (editor) is Pam Wise
The Most common name for Pam Wise (costume supervisor) is Pam Wise It's annoying, but it's nothing new: I have loads of these duo's in my database. Here's a well-documented one, for instance. Using local-only fake birth years to keep them separated is currently the only solution. |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | I use local middle names (when known, and only in such cases) as well. Feels just a bit more "natural" than a fake BY. | | | | Hans | | | | Last edited: by Staid S Barr |
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