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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken you may have to step into this one to tell us if this is a problem or not.
Sleepaway Camp Survival Kit
This was originally released (Very Briefly) with an image of the Red Cross like you would find on some First Aid Kits. Basically as soon as it hit the stores Anchor Bay was contacted by the Red Cross about the "Red Cross" being used and legally forced to change the outer cover of the box set. Stores were contact to recall the set.. but by then some were already sold and sent out to people on pre-orders and such.
The new cover is what has been in the database every since. It is now trying to be updated to the original release covers... which I understand and completely support normally. But this is one situation that may be an exception to the rule. Since we already know that The Red Cross was prepared to take legal action over this. Should we chance having those original scans in the database?
So what are your thoughts on this? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | I personally would treat this as one where a limited edition is released under the same UPC as a normal edition & keep the existing, non Red Cross cover. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | True...
My line of thinking is better safe then sorry. I have not voted yet on this... and so far it got all yes votes... which I completely understand and do not fault anyone on. But was hoping to hear many other thoughts on this subject.
Or ideally have Ken chime in to say if he thought this was a potential problem or not. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't think it will be a problem. We are representing the actual product, not creating one. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | yes but are we "representing the actual product" since that actual product was recalled and changed? I mean I still have my original version and scanned it in my collection... Just like I am sure... many (basically all) that did get it in time didn't exchange it... but I didn't update online because of this. Like I said... it is not like I am against this... I just worry about any future problems that could possibly occur. But then again I do have a habit of worrying too much.  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | This may be an exception due to the circumstances behind it, but would set a dangerous precedent. Do we then create 2 profiles for all those Columbia/Tristar titles that got re-issued without the widescreen versions and different covers? Maybe ones that get a bit extra on ebay for having the WS, they're kinda the same and almost limited? Plus those RC covers arent' as scarce as you may think, plenty got out. I had 2 of them but ended up selling as the movies didn't hold up for me. Even after the recall I could've got another at Best Buy (with the 4th disc) for weeks, I justy kept leaving it there. My store did not pull them or send them back.
Personly I'm leaning toward keeping the original scans per rules, and put up the re-release scans in the forums for those with that cover. Then anyone can choose whichever they want for their collection and keep it local. The red cross should be in the db as it was the original.
It would be so much easier if they'd just change the UPC whenever they went back and changed any title for any reason. Keeping the UPC is my second biggest gripe about dvds, right behind the intentional double or triple dip. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I do understand what you are saying... but I also believe this is a completely different circumstance. I don't personally think the re-release without widescreen version is even close to this circumstance. But as I said... I haven't even voted at this point. and just thinking better safe then sorry if this could turn into a problem for Invelos.
But then again... if this does turn into a problem Ken can always remove the scans from the online... and have the new scans put back. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 223 |
| | Posted: | | | | The R1 copy that I have in my database is 013131-235890 and it already has the Red Cross logo....
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting stevegblair: Quote:
The R1 copy that I have in my database is 013131-235890 and it already has the Red Cross logo....
???? Mine is 013131-207491 | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting stevegblair: Quote:
The R1 copy that I have in my database is 013131-235890 and it already has the Red Cross logo....
???? That's also the one I own, which was the "Best Buy Exclusive" and included the bonus 4th disc. It's true that the initial Red Cross version(s) of the coverart were recalled, but it was done so voluntarily by Anchor Bay after all of the stock had been depleted. I would consider the Red Cross cover(s) as the originals. It was out in stores for many months before the alternate coverart came into stores. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 178 |
| | Posted: | | | | i have the red cross one too  |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I do understand what you are saying... but I also believe this is a completely different circumstance. I don't personally think the re-release without widescreen version is even close to this circumstance. But as I said... I haven't even voted at this point. and just thinking better safe then sorry if this could turn into a problem for Invelos.
Since we're talking about cover scans, it is very similar. Just remove the recall and it's almost exactly the same. Same UPC with a different cover. For the later C/TS titles like Sheena, those discs with the WS version are nearly impossible to find and most users have the FS only version (bad example as that kept the cover art, but others like Quick and the Dead have new covers). No one's ever said anything about keeping the newer "more common" cover scans of those. If you missed the first release, you missed it regardless of the reason. That's what we have the re-release cover scan thread for. |
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