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Alvin and the Chipmunks?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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I know its been approved already but I need some clarification on why the "THE" in the title was not capitalized per the dvd cover? Maybe Im just not understanding the rules on this correctly?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDragon 6
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For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word of the title.

It does not get capitalized because it is a joining word.
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While that is true, it should be capitalized, in this instance, as it is the name of the group.  They are 'The Chipmunks', not the 'Chipmunks'.
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I agree with Unicus. Some exceptions to the capitalisation rules such as this should be allowed in my opinion.
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While that is true, it should be capitalized, in this instance, as it is the name of the group.  They are 'The Chipmunks', not the 'Chipmunks'.

Agreed.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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Well then the recently contributed profile is wrong. The removed the capatilization.
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I think it's right following DVDP rules, it's just not right following English rules 

The software rules don't currently allow for such cases.
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Quoting Dragon 6:
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For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word of the title.

It does not get capitalized because it is a joining word.


Tis is the sticking point though, since "The" is part of a title which could has been used for a cartoon to stand alone "The Chipmunks" would be correctly Capitalized.

It's not "Jason and the Argonauts" or "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone"

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I agree and I also agree about Alvin and The Chipmunks
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It's not "Jason and the Argonauts" or "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone"

but if you follow the rules word for word it would be wrong. There is a lot of common sense that we should use (miss spellings in the overview, title etc.) but we don't.
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While that is true, it should be capitalized, in this instance, as it is the name of the group.  They are 'The Chipmunks', not the 'Chipmunks'.


It should be capitalized if the Rules told us to use standard capitalization rules for Titles, but unfortunately, for English titles, that's not what the Rules tell us to do.  They simply tell us to "check capitalization" (whatever that means) and then further down it tells us not to capitalize specific words including the word 'the'.  No exception is identified stating "unless the word 'the' is used as part of the name of a group".

Personally, I'd capitalize it, but the Rules say otherwise.
Hal
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You are correct...which is why I was forced to vote yes, even though my common sense told me otherwise, when the contribution came through.  The change will not, however, make it into my local db.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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You are correct...which is why I was forced to vote yes, even though my common sense told me otherwise, when the contribution came through.  The change will not, however, make it into my local db.


Nor mine! 
Hal
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