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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormarcelb7
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When a disc is re-released as part of a box set, with the same disc-id, the release date should be:
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Marcel:

This is going to be all over the place and is by and large going to be a local issue. For example. sometimes they are released same day, other times the box is released before the stand-alone, sometimes the other way. Naturally for Contribution puproses, the dfata should be that of the Original release, for local whatever YOU wnat. If Box precedes the stand-alone, the Contributed data should be the release of the BOX, if you own the stand-alone which came later, then I would make the release relevant to the copy I possess and would not even think about Contributing the different release date, assuming of course all the variables are the same, such as UPC, etc.

You will find lots of this kind of thing in my collection if you know what you are looking foir. Like Beauty and the Beast: the Complete Series, the release dates are different from the Stand-alone seasons, as is the cover art. Much of the data aside from MAYBE cast and Crew, Studio data, Runtimes, etc, would be non-contributable because they are reflective of MY copy and not that of the Original releases.

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If the re-released disc has the same UPC/EAN as the original release we should use original release date.  If the re-released disc has no UPC/EAN and is entered by DiscID, we COULD use the box set release date for it (since it would be a different profile distinct from the original release).
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Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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I agree with Giga here.
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I think you should use the release date of the boxset. You create a new profile because of the Boxset so that release date should be used.

If the repack a disc using a new UPC but an old Disc-ID you'd use the date of the UPC not the old date of the disc-ID so why would that change with a boxset release.

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Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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I think you should use the release date of the boxset. You create a new profile because of the Boxset so that release date should be used.

If the repack a disc using a new UPC but an old Disc-ID you'd use the date of the UPC not the old date of the disc-ID so why would that change with a boxset release.

Paul

Exactly my point. My poll does not concern repackaged movies (same disc id + different upc), only boxsets that contain repackaged discs (and are not packaged separately).

I opened this poll, because I tried to update the entries of the following boxset: Essential Sci-Fi Collection (8717438137773, locality NL). The disc-id profiles all have the cover of this boxset, so it seems to me that these discs (discs, not movies) are released on the same day as the boxset. Right? The boxset has nothing to do with the original release of Rollerball, Terminator and Robocop.

Unfortunately, the dvd industry has come to a point where discs are repackaged ad infinitum, so it's getting harder to profile these new boxsets. In the Netherlands we have Dutch Filmworks, who has released every Quentin Tarantino movie about 827 times. Ridiculous, but apparently they make a buck or two with this... 
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Exactly my point. My poll does not concern repackaged movies (same disc id + different upc), only boxsets that contain repackaged discs (and are not packaged separately)

These unique disc-id where first released long be fore the dvd-box was ever released.
You have the DVD-BOX release in the parent profile, the individual disc release date stays in the child Profile (unique disc-id) If the unique disc-id belongs only to the box or was released first in that box, it gets the same released date.
If the disc itself was first released in 2004, why would you want to change this correct information, to the release date of the box 2005. what could be its use? You already know its part of that DVD Box released on that day, now you know also this dvd's first release was in 2004.


But it's a new profile. The Disc-ID currently is linked to the UPC of that movie and creating a new profile, using disc-ID, for the DVD released as part of the box, require a release date. The profile is needed for the contents of the boxset so you aren't even changing anything. No one says you should also change the release of the title profiled using UPC. Only create a new profile for the contents of the set.

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The DVD Release Date is always the date of Original Release.

So whether or not this concerns a re-release of a UPC/EAN or Disc ID doesn't matter. What matters is that a particular DVD can only have one first release date and a repack can't change that.
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If the re-released disc has the same UPC/EAN as the original release we should use original release date.  If the re-released disc has no UPC/EAN and is entered by DiscID, we COULD use the box set release date for it (since it would be a different profile distinct from the original release).


This is what I would do.
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If the re-released disc has the same UPC/EAN as the original release we should use original release date.  If the re-released disc has no UPC/EAN and is entered by DiscID, we COULD use the box set release date for it (since it would be a different profile distinct from the original release).


This is what I would do.

Thank you.

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But it's a new profile. The Disc-ID currently is linked to the UPC of that movie and creating a new profile, using disc-ID, for the DVD released as part of the box, require a release date. The profile is needed for the contents of the boxset so you aren't even changing anything. No one says you should also change the release of the title profiled using UPC. Only create a new profile for the contents of the set.

Paul

Thank you too.
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