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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think this is Cinematographer but the " in Technicolor" has put a doubt in my head  Do Hilda Collins and Rahvis get credited  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | Natalie Kalmus was just the Supervisor overlooking the finsihed product.. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
I think this is Cinematographer but the " in Technicolor" has put a doubt in my head I'd say yes. The Technicolor credit is simply telling you what he photographed it with. Quote:
Do Hilda Collins and Rahvis get credited I don't think so. A Dress Supervisor looks after the wardrobe, they wouldn't have designed it. And Rahvis is the designer who supplied the dresses. It would be like giving Armani a credit for supplying the suits for The Untouchables. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
Natalie Kalmus was just the Supervisor overlooking the finsihed product.. Thanks for the info Terry but i wasn't going to credit that person | | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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I think this is Cinematographer but the " in Technicolor" has put a doubt in my head
I'd say yes. The Technicolor credit is simply telling you what he photographed it with.
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Do Hilda Collins and Rahvis get credited
I don't think so. A Dress Supervisor looks after the wardrobe, they wouldn't have designed it. And Rahvis is the designer who supplied the dresses. It would be like giving Armani a credit for supplying the suits for The Untouchables. That's what i thought about Rahvis but for Hilda Collins could "Dress" mean "Costume" |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Even though "Photographed in Technicolor by" is a functional equivalent to "Cinematographer", it is not listed in the chart and therefore not allowed. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
That's what i thought about Rahvis but for Hilda Collins could "Dress" mean "Costume" I agree with North, the reference to 'Technicolor' has to do with the era this film was produced. As for Hilda Collins, because there is someone given a credit for 'dresses', I am thinking she was in charge of those dresses. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Even though "Photographed in Technicolor by" is a functional equivalent to "Cinematographer", it is not listed in the chart and therefore not allowed. Please just stop. It was amusing the first dozen times but now its just getting old. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
That's what i thought about Rahvis but for Hilda Collins could "Dress" mean "Costume" "Dress" could mean "Costume". But the rules tell us to go by label and not by function, therefore no credit. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for the help, have entered Ronald Neame as Cinematographer and left out the other two |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
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Even though "Photographed in Technicolor by" is a functional equivalent to "Cinematographer", it is not listed in the chart and therefore not allowed.
Please just stop. It was amusing the first dozen times but now its just getting old. I don't do this for your or my amusement. I do it to show that the rules do not work well in this regard. So, I guess, you agree that the rules should allow functional equivalents? | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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That's what i thought about Rahvis but for Hilda Collins could "Dress" mean "Costume"
I agree with North, the reference to 'Technicolor' has to do with the era this film was produced. As for Hilda Collins, because there is someone given a credit for 'dresses', I am thinking she was in charge of those dresses. this is what i was not sure about the term "Dress" could mean "Ladies Dresses" or it could mean "All Clothing" as in to Dress someone or something |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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Even though "Photographed in Technicolor by" is a functional equivalent to "Cinematographer", it is not listed in the chart and therefore not allowed.
Please just stop. It was amusing the first dozen times but now its just getting old.
I don't do this for your or my amusement. I do it to show that the rules do not work well in this regard.
So, I guess, you agree that the rules should allow functional equivalents? Not being particularly pedantic myself, I never really had much issue figuring out how to handle credits. Of course I work under the theory that if we weren't meant to think, we wouldn't have been issued a brain. I do appreciate that there are a minority of users who don't deal well without exhaustingly explicit directions. I'm just not sympathetic enough to overhaul the rules to cater to this group. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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Even though "Photographed in Technicolor by" is a functional equivalent to "Cinematographer", it is not listed in the chart and therefore not allowed.
Please just stop. It was amusing the first dozen times but now its just getting old.
I don't do this for your or my amusement. I do it to show that the rules do not work well in this regard.
So, I guess, you agree that the rules should allow functional equivalents? I would guess that most of us have decided to use our brains. "Photographed in Technicolor by" is not a functional equivalent. It is a 'Photographed by' credit, which is in our list, that includes an advertisement for 'Technicolor'. This was done, at the time, to entice audiences into seeing these films. As to why you do it, unless someone has been living under a rock, we all know that the rules do not work well in this regard. However, your continued assault on the equine who's biological functions have been permanently terminated, is beginning to annoy people...as evidenced by mdnitoil's post. I will also admit that, in these types of threads, I have begun to skip over your posts as they no longer add anything constructive to the discussion...though there is no requirement that a post do so. I also have to add that I don't recall this happening under the old rule, which was far more restrictive.  Edit: corrected a typo.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
this is what i was not sure about the term "Dress" could mean "Ladies Dresses" or it could mean "All Clothing" as in to Dress someone or something Yea, I can see it going either way. Tough call that one. Much as I love 'old Hollywood', this kind of stuff drives me nuts. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
continued assault on the equine who's biological functions have been permanent terminated Shergar?     Steve |
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