I have noticed that each time I try to contribute a new movie, someone rejects it with the reason that I am using a database from a 3rd party... I clearly state that I am taking the information from the DVD box itself.. so .. meh, I am no longer contributing new material... too difficult (stuff already in the database - invelos - is way easier to 'fine tune'...)

jmbox is correct. New additions to the database are not voted on by Users. They go directly to the Screeners who must judge the new profiles based on rule compliance. Without actually seeing one of these profiles, it would be difficult for us to determine why they are being rejected.

Okely dokely...

This is what I typed (on my 3rd attempt)... the first one I did submit a movie on which I have verified other highly credible sources.. (which was removed on the second and 3rd attempt)...


"This movie is added as per INVELOS RULES / General Information (source: Packaging - French Canadian and English USA / DVD Title as per Scanned Front cover - French Canadian and English USA / Release Information as per packaging / Video Format - as per indication on DVD and packaging / Features: as per DVD booklet / Audio and Subtitles - As per indication on Back cover / Cast and Crew (source: credits on the packaging -rear cover / OverView: Source: Back jacket of the DVD Movie box / Disk: imprint of the DVD itself / Cover Scan (source: the product itself)"

got back:
"An invalid source, such as a third party database, was listed in the contribution notes. Use of a third party database is not allowed per the contribution rules."

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p.s. could it be the way I express myself??

Dr Killpatient!

I know haha.. I did compare with other sources to ensure that what  I was writting from the box was the same elsewhere.. I stop writing in my submission box (the reason why you submitt) that I was verifying: IMDB, DVDEmpire, CBC.ca and so on... I took that out assuming that because I was writing I was cross-checking what I was contributing was verify on those site was the issue.. nope it was not...

Thanks!

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great.. I will re-re-re-read the 'rules'.. I thought it was pretty clear in my mind! phew...

Question: does that mean you have to put the DVD in the player... and look at the credits flowing through the screen???

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What Doc said?

"Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits. Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead." 

"Cast

For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed together in a single section at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits". The section details both the actor’s Name and the Role that they played in the film. The credits may be listed "in order of appearance", "alphabetical order" or in an order of importance decided by the filmmakers. Some actors may be credited a second time in either credits at either the opening or close of the film.

For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited."

Skip

The reason for this strict requirement when it comes to cast and crew is that both the DVD cover and other sources are very, very often wrong. Only the actual film credits can be relied upon. Any contribution in which credit information is being taken from anywhere else than the actual film credits will get a Decline. So state very clearly in your contribution notes that you used e.g. the film's end credits as the source for your credits info.

The only exception is Role names, in case these are not provided in the actual credits themselves (this happens often with main characters in TV series). In that case you can use other sources, such as a DVD inlay, the official website for the movie or TV series, a number of other databases (not just one, but several (for cross-verification). And then you still need to document where you got the info.

Just try again. As long you keep this in mind, you'll be fine.

Quoting lostmule:

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Question: does that mean you have to put the DVD in the player... and look at the credits flowing through the screen???

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Different people have different approaches.  If you have a DVD drive in your computer, it can be straightforward to run the movie alongside Profiler and pause the credits while you copy them across.  I recall someone saying that they took a series of screenshots and worked off those.  The minor details of how are up to you, but yes, your information will come from the scrolling credits.  (It gets trickier when the movie has something interesting happening with credits like fading in and out or zooming around the screen... or the strange case someone mentioned of spoken credits).