Pardon if I'm long winded.    At the shop today I picked up The Bourne Trilogy boxed set - which has all 3 of the Matt Damon Bourne films.  Each film is in a thinpak inside the box, and has no UPC.  When I downloaded the boxed set it didn't come with profiles on the individual discs, so I popped the discs into my new DVD-rom drive (thank you fellow profilers for convincing me to buy one!) and got a bit of a wrongness. 

Two of the discs come up correctly - but the third (or should I say first?) - The Bourne Identity - when downloaded from discID gives me not the film but another Bourne boxed set - The Bourne Files 3-Disc Collection (which contains the first two films + a bonus disc, and is not the boxed set I picked up). 

So, it's obvious to me that they repackaged the disc for the first film from the earlier boxed set into the newer boxed set.  I've corrected everything locally ...

But should I submit the corrections, with explanation, to the database?  Or should I keep all my changes locally?  I'm fairly certain that the disc ID should link to a profile of the film, rather than that boxed set, but I wanted to check ...

Pardon if this sounds like a totally obvious question or something, but I'm still fairly new to submitting profiles. 

The UPC of the boxed set I have is 025195052047.  That's for The Bourne Trilogy.

The thinpaks with the three movies do not have individual UPCs, that's why I went to add them via disc ID so I could have the movie info in the boxed set.  The disc ID for The Bourne Identity included in the boxed set is 742A9276E077B976.  That disc ID gives this set.

Quoting Danae Cassandra:

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Pardon if I'm long winded.

Not at all, this is a slightly tricky situation, and information is always good.

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The Bourne Identity - when downloaded from discID

I don't have the disc, so I can't reproduce the whole thing, but if I read correct you now have:

Bourne Trilogy (025195052047)
|- Bourne 1 (DiscID: 742A9276E077B976)
|- Bourne 2 (DiscID: something)
|- Bourne 3 (DiscID: something)

right? If so, everything is nice on your end. Upload the Parent and the Childs for 2 and 3

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But should I submit the corrections, with explanation, to the database? Or should I keep all my changes locally?

Locally. First release goes to database. The technical specs should be the same, having the same DiscID, but the Cover from the old Boxset has to stay.

cya, Mithi

To Raymond: 

What I'm adding by disc-ID isn't what has the child profile.  It is the child profile.  The item that has the child profiles was added by UPC.

To Mithi:

I'm more than happy to keep everything local.  However, wouldn't the next person who adds the contents of The Bourne Trilogy via disc-ID have the same problems - i.e. the disc-ID bringing up a boxed set instead of the disc?

I think maybe I haven't been clear about the situation.  If I'm wrong, please let me know.  But, as I see it, this is how it should be:

- The Bourne Files 3-Disc Collection (a boxed set) = has UPC (should parent profile)
-- contains 3 discs
---- The Bourne Identity = has disc ID (should be child profile of box, not profile of box itself)
---- The Bourne Supremacy = likely has disc ID (should be child profile of box)
---- a bonus disc = likely has disc ID (should be child profile of box)

- The Bourne Trilogy (a boxed set) = has UPC (should be parent profile)
-- contains 3 discs
---- The Bourne Identity = has disc ID (should be child profile of box, not profile of other boxed set)
---- The Bourne Supremacy = has disc ID (should be child profile of box)
---- The Bourne Ultimatum = has disc ID (should be child profile of box)

I guess what keeps throwing me off is that I don't think the boxed set should be linked to a disc ID, especially since the film was released separately at an earlier time.  My gut instinct keeps saying that the initial contribution is incorrect.

Quoting Danae Cassandra:

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I think maybe I haven't been clear about the situation.  If I'm wrong, please let me know.  But, as I see it, this is how it should be:

- The Bourne Files 3-Disc Collection (a boxed set) = has UPC (should parent profile)
-- contains 3 discs
---- The Bourne Identity = has disc ID (should be child profile of box, not profile of box itself)
---- The Bourne Supremacy = likely has disc ID (should be child profile of box)
---- a bonus disc = likely has disc ID (should be child profile of box)

- The Bourne Trilogy (a boxed set) = has UPC (should be parent profile)
-- contains 3 discs
---- The Bourne Identity = has disc ID (should be child profile of box, not profile of other boxed set)
---- The Bourne Supremacy = has disc ID (should be child profile of box)
---- The Bourne Ultimatum = has disc ID (should be child profile of box)

I guess what keeps throwing me off is that I don't think the boxed set should be linked to a disc ID, especially since the film was released separately at an earlier time.  My gut instinct keeps saying that the initial contribution is incorrect.

Yes as far as I understand the rules that would be correct, however it looks like it's been fixed in the online database.  The only The Bourne Files: 3-Disc Collection, I see in the online profile list, shows up with a UPC of 025195006477 w/ child profiles.

The Bourne Files: 3-Disc Collection (UPC: 025195006477)
|- The Bourne Identity (Disc ID: 742A9276E077B976)
|- The Bourne Supremacy (Disc ID: F9C6DBFC35E4550B)
|- The Bourne Files: Bonus Disc (Disc ID: 36D8BC6A3EE30038)

As I mentioned earlier, it appears this has been fixed.  If you're getting confused by the cover art then read on:

The child profiles for The Bourne Files appear to be disc related, however they do carry over the cover images of the parent profile.  As far as I understand the rules, it's acceptable to use the parent cover images in the event the individual movies/discs don't have individual cover art (e.g. boxsets).

This does become awkward when you have multiple releases, but as of right now DVDP doesn't store multiple cover images for re-releases.  However, you can scan the images and add those to your local DB.  For reference, a few quotes from the contribution rules are listed below.

Box Set Contribution Rules

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Create individual profiles for each movie in these Box Sets. Use individual UPCs if they are available or use Disc ID (read on a DVD-ROM) if not. Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a film is individually packaged, use the cover images from that packaging.

Cover Images Contirubution Rules

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If a title is re-released with the same UPC, but different cover images do not contribute the new images. This includes cases where a DVD was initially released in a slipcase, which was later removed. As explained in the introduction you may use your personal images in your local database, but they will not show online.

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It's possible that what is happening is that Profiler is recognising that the disc ID you have is attached to the UPC profile for Bourne Files and telling you to download that one instead.
This is a situation I've come across before where, if you add by disc, you are only offered the first profile it finds even if there are other matches.
Try searching by title - that should let you find the profile you're looking for. The profiles, as far as I can tell, are all set up correctly, it's a flaw in the way we add profiles by disc that's causing the problem.

If this is the case then maybe Ken can make an enhancement for the next release where it would list all profiles with said Disc ID and the user could choose which profile they need.

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Quoting rdodolak:

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If this is the case then maybe Ken can make an enhancement for the next release where it would list all profiles with said Disc ID and the user could choose which profile they need.

That would be very nice indeed!

That would be imperative for this functionality to work since disc-ID is clearly not a unique value (as opposed to UPC/EAN).