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Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | SKG are the initials of the founders:
Steven Spielberg Jeffrey Katzenberg David Geffen
Since this is not a suffix in the business way that LLC is, shouldn't this be included with the studio/distributor if it is presented that way on the box/disc.? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Yes, I presume it should.
And is it Dreamworks or DreamWorks? | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Patsa: Quote: Yes, I presume it should.
And is it Dreamworks or DreamWorks? It is DreamWorks, with a capital 'W'. On a side note, we should make sure we don't get 'fooled' by their logo. While the logo does include 'SKG', their credit usually doesn't. In the credits, they are usually, 'DreamWorks Pictures' or 'DreamWorks Animation'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting Patsa:
Quote: Yes, I presume it should.
And is it Dreamworks or DreamWorks?
It is DreamWorks, with a capital 'W'. On a side note, we should make sure we don't get 'fooled' by their logo. While the logo does include 'SKG', their credit usually doesn't. In the credits, they are usually, 'DreamWorks Pictures' or 'DreamWorks Animation'. Take Kungfu Panda 097361-392844 In the credit block it lists DREAMWORKS SKG, so this should be listed as DreamWorks SKG, correct? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote: Take Kungfu Panda 097361-392844
In the credit block it lists DREAMWORKS SKG, so this should be listed as DreamWorks SKG, correct? Incorrect. A lot of companies use the shorthand, or logo, version of their names in the credit block on the case. If you watch the film, you will find that the opening credits read: "DreamWorks Animation presents." Based on that, the correct entry would be, "DreamWorks Animation". | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting CharlieM:
Quote: Take Kungfu Panda 097361-392844
In the credit block it lists DREAMWORKS SKG, so this should be listed as DreamWorks SKG, correct?
Incorrect. A lot of companies use the shorthand, or logo, version of their names in the credit block on the case. If you watch the film, you will find that the opening credits read: "DreamWorks Animation presents." Based on that, the correct entry would be, "DreamWorks Animation". The disc opening says DreamWorks Animation SKG Home Entertatainment (Media Producer) The Movie opening starts DreamWorks Animation SKG Second Scene DreamWorks Animation Presents How would you credit? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | FYI, DeramWorks and DreamWorks Animation are now two different companies and have been for awhile now. Why they used the SKG I can't tell you. DreamWorks is now totally Spielberg, Geffen is out and Katzenberg took DreamWorks Animation.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote: The disc opening says
DreamWorks Animation SKG Home Entertatainment (Media Producer) This is a logo, so I would use the actual name, DreamWorks Animation Home Entertainment. Quote: The Movie opening starts
DreamWorks Animation SKG Also a logo, disregard in favor of the actual credit. Quote: Second Scene
DreamWorks Animation Presents Actual credit so, as I said in my previous post, this is the one to use. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| | Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting CharlieM:
Quote: The disc opening says
DreamWorks Animation SKG Home Entertatainment (Media Producer)
This is a logo, so I would use the actual name, DreamWorks Animation Home Entertainment.
Quote: The Movie opening starts
DreamWorks Animation SKG
Also a logo, disregard in favor of the actual credit.
Quote: Second Scene
DreamWorks Animation Presents
Actual credit so, as I said in my previous post, this is the one to use. Agreed. | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away! True love conquers all! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Mega Dittos.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | In the company info section of their website they call themselves DreamWorks Animation SKG. I think that may be the proper name for that branch of the company. As others have said though, DreamWorks Pictures does not include the SKG bit, and as far as I can tell, neither does DreamWorks Home Entertainment |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: In the company info section of their website they call themselves DreamWorks Animation SKG. I think that may be the proper name for that branch of the company. Yes, that is their 'corporate name'. If you read through their site, you will see that they only use that name when they are refering to the company. When they refer to films and employees, they use 'DreamWorks Animation'. Since that is the name they use in their credits, it should be the name that we use here. Quote: As others have said though, DreamWorks Pictures does not include the SKG bit, and as far as I can tell, neither does DreamWorks Home Entertainment Actually, DreamWorks Pictures still uses the SKG in their logo. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Well I'm confused now. I thought the point was to catalogue their full name, ie. their corporate name? If we're not doing that, why aren't we just using as credited? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | The idea is or should be catalog the Credited data from the FILM, not extraneous outside sources. Using outside sources,as opposed to real data from FILM is what causes CONFUSION.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: Well I'm confused now. I thought the point was to catalogue their full name, ie. their corporate name? No, the idea is to catalogue the production or studio name. I will give you 2 examples: Sony Pictures, Columbia Pictures, Screen Gems, TriStar Pictures, Destination Films and MG are all owned by Sony Pictures Entertainment, Inc.. Sony Pictures Entertainment, Inc., is owned by Sony. Which name should we credit? The corporate name that they are all under or the individual studio name? Universal Pictures is the poduction arm of Universal Studios...which is their corporate name. Which do we enter? The studio name, Universal Pictures, or the corporate name, Universal Studios? Quote: If we're not doing that, why aren't we just using as credited? From what I have seen in contributions, most people alread are. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Those examples don't work here, they are all companies working under a parent company. Here DreamWorks Animation SKG is still a specific company whether you include the SKG or not. If people had been arguing that we list them under DreamWorks LLC - the umbrella company as it were, I could see the logic of your examples, but we're not. We're trying to decide: is the proper name for the company DreamWorks Animation or DreamWorks Animation SKG?
Edit: if people are already submitting "as credited", fine by me - but if that's the case we should remove the comment in the rules about "correct names for studios". | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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