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Differing UPCs on keep case and slipcover
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantClemBones
Registered: October 2, 2008
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It's probably been asked before, but I haven't found it in my searching.
So what do I do here?

The DVD in question is R2 release of the S. Korean film "The Host". I realised I'd forgot to add it to my collection, so I went to get the UPC from the case and found that on the back of the slipcover it's 5060034579120, but on the back of the keep case it's 5060034579571.

Both UPCs exist in the database (though neither have the slipcover checked at present!!).
Both have the same release date, so it's not like one version was released later with (or without) a slipcover, they were released on the same day. This makes me pretty sure it's not a "mistake" - i.e. it's not as if someone in the factory has accidentally stuck the wrong keep case inside the slipcover.

In other releases they've avoided the UPC difference by doing one of the following:
1) Covering the barcode on either the keep case or the slipcover with a blank sticker or some other method of blanking.
2) Covering the barcode on either the keep case or the slipcover with a sticker that contains the barcode of the other, so the two match.
3) Sometimes when the barcode on the keep case and the slipcover are lined up, a rectangular hole is cut into the slipcover so the barcode from the keep case is visible.

In this case, they've done none of the above, and I have 2 UPCs to choose from.
So, do I add the slipcover one, because the release I have has a slipcover?
Or is it that the keep case is the most important bit, and takes precedent over the slipcover?

And might it be possible that somewhere there could be a release of 5060034579120 that does not have a slipcover, or a release of 5060034579571 that does?

Thanks!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
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What is quite common for a DVD is to have a first release with a slipcover and then one or more re-releases without a slipcover. So I'm not so sure the information in the two profiles regarding the release date is correct. If I look up this title in find-dvd.co.uk, I'm getting two releases on DVD: this one
and this one, with distinct release dates.

Perhaps any of the individual retailers' listings mentioned on these two pages will help you link them to the respective UPCs.

It would not be unlikely if the March 2007 release is the one with the slipcover and the June 2007 release is the one without.

Your case is special, in that it seems to be a combination of two different releases. I'd say: go with the UPC on the slipcover. You might contribute the slipcover check. With the two find-dvd pages mentioned above you could further investigate the release dates for various releases and make corrections to the release dates in the profiles depending on the results you'll get.

Hope this helps!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantClemBones
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Ok, the 2 links you provided are actually for the 2-disc and single disc releases respectively.

I followed the second link and then clicked on the Zavvi listing for the product (http://www.zavvi.co.uk/-dvd-/780443//p.jsf) - this is definitely the single disc release. It has a UPC noted as 5060034579625, and the back cover image (http://www.zavvi.co.uk/images/780/780443_DV_L_B.JPG) matches the listing. The release date for the single disc version is 4 June 2007.


I followed the first link through to Zavvi - where the 2-disc version is listed with the UPC 5060034579571 (http://www.zavvi.co.uk/-dvd-/755488//p.jsf) - the same as the keep case on the version I own. However, if you look at the associated rear cover image for it (http://www.zavvi.co.uk/images/755/755488_DV_L_B.JPG), the UPC is clearly 5060034579120 - the same as on the slipcover of the one I own. The release date they note is 5 March 2007.

I checked the listing at Tesco Jersey (http://www.tesco.com/entertainment/product.aspx?R=755488&&in_merch=1&in_merch_title=Best_Sellers&in_merch_name=Host,+The+[2+Disc+Version]). On that listing there is a rear cover image (http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/DVD/LB/755488_DV_L_B.jpg) and like Zavvi, it shows the slipcover UPC to be 5060034579120 and has a release date noted as 5 March 2007.

I searched at Amazon by UPC, and 5060034579571 brings up a listing of The Host. That listing (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Host-2-DISC-Kang-Ho-Song/dp/B000KRNMVC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1226671745&sr=8-1) has a release date noted of 5 March 2007.

When I searched at Amazon for UPC 5060034579120 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/STEAMBOY-DIRECTORS-DISC-LIMITED-BOXSET/dp/B000RFGON0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1226673031&sr=8-1), it brings up a different film altogether, Steamboy Director's Cut 2-disc Limited Edition Boxset. However, there are no rear case images of this product to prove the UPC is correct and nowhere else seems to sell it.

A Google search for 5060034579120 brings up very few results - the Amazon one for Steamboy, and a different Zavvi link for The Host (http://www.zavvi.co.uk/dvd-Sci:fi-and-Fantasy-Fantasy-15+to+19.99-The-Host/773791/cccr33.r10.1/p.jsf). This one is listed with a release date of 12 March 2007, but there is no rear case image. However, if you zoom the front case image, it has a different sticker, whcih clearly says "2 disc set" and contains a Virgin logo.

This led me to suspect that 5060034579120 might be the UPC of a Virgin Megastores Exclusive version, which is just the regular release plus a slipcase. This seems viable, as Zavvi took over from Virgin.
However, if the version I own is a Virgin Exclusive, then 1) why do Tesco Jersey have the same rear case image? and 2) you would have to assume that Zavvi have mistakenly applied the rear case image of the Exclusive version to their listing of the regular release, and missed it off the listing for the exclusive edition...

I can't be certain where I bought it from - it could have been Virgin / Zavvi, but it could have been HMV. I don't recall it being an exclusive edition and there's certainly nothing on the case that would suggest it is. I guess I need someone else who has this, but definitely didn't buy from Virgin / Zavvi, to confrim that theirs has a slipcover and non-matching UPCs too...
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Oops, sorry I didn't notice the two- versus single-disc difference! 

I don't have either of the two you mentioned, so I'm afraid I can't help you with this one. Good luck in getting this sorted!
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkarstenp
Registered: April 2, 2007
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As the scans for the slip-cover version should be from the slip-cover, so should the UPC imho.
This way the screener(s) can check that the correct scan is used. If scans differ from UPC, I think a decline is in progress... 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantClemBones
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For now, I've added 5060034579120 to my collection, checked the slip cover box and contributed.
The scans for both versions in the database are correct (i.e. the UPCs match the barcodes on the scans).

This doesn't resolve the confusion though...
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantxradman
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I've had a similar case where UPC on the slip cover/outer case differed from the DVD cover.  Those were typically store exclusive cover over standard DVD (T2 Extreme DVD was like this although the metal cover was not an exclusive) .  I would treat those as a boxset with single title and add them both to my database.
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