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Submitting DVD (SteelBook) with no UPC?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantscottiew
Registered: March 13, 2007
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I've submitted a new listing for "Underworld: Evolution" (SteelBook) which was a limited edition SteelBook from Future Shop Canada. I believe it just was an empty case that came with regular keepcase and thus same specs as the previously contributed Canada (Quebec) version. I've already got 1 No, don't know who or why as i don't know how to check that.

But, I probably don't know how to submit one with no UPC. All info and cover scans from my personal copy.

So how do I do it so it gets approved?

Thanks.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorNadja
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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It's not a new listing if you've gotten a vote on it. What is the UPC/disc ID on the profile exactly?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBad Father
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You cannot overwrite the original release keepcase version with a re-release Steel Book Edition if they use the same UPC. That's why you are getting the no votes.

If the Steel Book has no UPC, then the only way to enter this will be by Disc ID because the UPC is undoubtably already being used by the regular keepcase edition. It's quite possible that the Disc ID is already in use as well which will mean that you will not be able to contribute the Steel Book and it will have to remain local.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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It will be a LOCAL issue, based on your description and the answers so far. Our data deals with the ORIGINAL release ONLY, including all data and artwork. Your description is also NOT that of a Steelbook, your a describing a tin case that contains a keepcase, like the Walt Disney Treasures, which would be CUSTOM, but STILL local ONLY

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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantscottiew
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Quoting skipnet50:
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It will be a LOCAL issue, based on your description and the answers so far. Our data deals with the ORIGINAL release ONLY, including all data and artwork. Your description is also NOT that of a Steelbook, your a describing a tin case that contains a keepcase, like the Walt Disney Treasures, which would be CUSTOM, but STILL local ONLY

Skip

well, it is indeed a SteelBook and seems silly that i won't be able to contribute it as a separate identity since i don't even have the keepcase version.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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A SteelBook is actually a special type of (metal and plastic) keep case. If it contains a regular keep case inside, it's not a SteelBook.

SteelBook

Apart from that, I would not contribute it. Simply change the case type and cover scans for your local profile and lock it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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As I noted Scottie, you did not describe a Steelbook case, you described a Tin which contains a keepcase.
"empty case that came with regular keepcase" or are you describing a purchase of the film in a Keep Case with a Bonus of an empty steelbook, which would also bea LOCAL only issue. You say you find it odd, yet in the TWO years since the release of Underworld Evolution no one has described this before.It is LOCAL only, you need to do as Partsa described. And be sure to LOCK your data, you should maintain it as you want it since you own it and appear to be the sole user who does.

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That would be me voting on 043396146884.3 (to see what is going on with your contributions, click "database" at the top of this web page, and then select "My Contributions")

If you are profiling a metal case in which the Widescreen Special Edition keepcase of the movie is contained, I am not certain if it can be contributed. Everything that is profiled is distinguished by either a UPC code (already in use by the previous, contained keepcase, which you are trying to replace) or by a Disc ID (also present in the previous profile). A profile may be identified and contributed by Disc ID, but I do not know if one can contribute a profile by Disc ID when the disc id in question is already contained elsewhere. If that is possible, then have a go at that mechanism ...

Failing that, then you would need to keep your data local, and not contribute.
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(to see what is going on with your contributions, click "database" at the top of this web page, and then select "My Contributions")

and just in case you weren't aware - the number of votes given is actually a clickable link which will show you the comments that have been left.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantscottiew
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As I noted Scottie, you did not describe a Steelbook case, you described a Tin which contains a keepcase.
"empty case that came with regular keepcase" or are you describing a purchase of the film in a Keep Case with a Bonus of an empty steelbook, which would also bea LOCAL only issue. You say you find it odd, yet in the TWO years since the release of Underworld Evolution no one has described this before.It is LOCAL only, you need to do as Partsa described. And be sure to LOCK your data, you should maintain it as you want it since you own it and appear to be the sole user who does.

Skip

i apologize if i didn't describe it more accurately. but, it is in fact a SteelBook and not a tin in anyway shape or form. i should know what they are because i have almost 80 of them, all from Scanavo- the maker of the case. this was a very rare one which is why it probably hasn't been contributed before.

A lot of Future Shop Exclusive SteelBooks do not have the UPC on them and came sealed alongside the keepcase.

if i can't contribute to the Db than so be it, but there are many this way (particularly SteelBook) and i think there should be some flexibility in these regards (as i am sure others have this or these releases but chose not to bother and just use the keepcase identity) especially for a paying customer such as myself.
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if i can't contribute to the Db than so be it, but there are many this way (particularly SteelBook) and i think there should be some flexibility in these regards (as i am sure others have this or these releases but chose not to bother and just use the keepcase identity) especially for a paying customer such as myself.


Although I agree to a point that it would be nice if we could submit alternate release covers as this would solve a lot of arguments over which the original release is (on any title, not this in particular), it would have a huge impact on the size of the online database.

I'm making these numbers up just to explain.
Let's say that each DVD has been released at least 3 times, that would be at least an extra 4 scans (front & back)

If the Invelos servers can handle it, then great in my opinion but I wouldn't hold my breath.

I do understand where you are coming from though as "everyone" likes to have their DB look exactly like their actual collection & not everyone has a scanner. However, in this case I think we'll be out of luck.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I thinlk we all understand where Scottie is coming from and to one degree or another can sympathize. But you describe the problem precisely right, Forget. Scottie needs to recognize that and be happy with what it is and why, we all have the same problem somewhere in our collection, and the place to cope with it is locally, at least until Ken decides to become the Scott's (Stamps) catalog of DVDs, which may happen at some point, but I have not yet seen much indication that theresany kind collectible price differential based on Covers, in fact by and large it appears that DVDs are not collectibles like Stamps, Comic Books, Baseball Cards, etc. If they are I have been looking at the wrong sites.

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ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here

Billy Video
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