What's wrong with adding a BY for the Composer?

Edit: I just checked the Editor at IMDb and not one of the titles listed there has been released to DVD. Is the Editor even in the Invelos Database?

Ahhh..."Man With a Camera" staring Charles Bronson had a DVD release.

Ohhh...I see. Well, no time like the present then. If you've got White Christmas in your collection just add a BY to Irving Birlin composer and submit it...along with proper documentation of course .

Irving Berlin, as one of the great men of American culture doesn't need a BY.

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Irving Berlin, as one of the great men of American culture doesn't need a BY.

you will need to add a BY for both Irving Berlin's (and in all the films) in order for them to remain separate in the database

Why?

If a BY is put only on the "editor", wouldn't that separate the two.

Since the "editor" has fewer credits, it would be easier to put the BY on him.

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you will need to add a BY for both Irving Berlin's (and in all the films) in order for them to remain separate in the database

Why?

If a BY is put only on the "editor", wouldn't that separate the two.

Since the "editor" has fewer credits, it would be easier to put the BY on him.

Because unfortunately, the program can't deal with that. Having two entries for the same name, one with and one without a birth year, is absolutely fine - until you need to restore your collection from a backup. When you do that, the program will automatically merge both entries into one single entry, with the birth year attached to it. This behaviour results in the need to add birth years to each of the namesakes, not just one of them. I even do so when I can't find a birth year: using a fake one (1001, 1002 and so on) is better than having them all merged back together with their namesakes as soon as I find myself having to restore a backup at some point.

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Looks like we're probably going to have to bite the bullet and update all the Composer's credits...which sucks when you consider all that work just to keep one editor's single credit seperate from the composer .

Indeed, and unfortunately that's not at all uncommon: think Robin Williams, for instance: I believe there's just one credit for another Robin Williams, resulting in the need for adding a birth year to about 1400 of the better-known Robin Williams profiles...    Or Morgan Freeman: the one in 'The Big Hit' really is someone else...

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At least the Morgan Freeman in "The Big Hit" is profiled as Morgan T. Freeman [Morgan Freeman]. That saved a lot of work .

That would be nice, yeah, but it's technically not allowed...    He's credited in the DVD Profiler database four times, in 'The Big Hit', '54', 'Water Damage' and 'The Life Before This'. If I'm not mistaken he's credited as "Morgan Freeman" in all four of them (please correct me if I'm wrong). IMDb indeed shows a "Morgan T. Freeman" credit in the TV show 'Little Men', but that's not on DVD, or at least not in the database. So it would seem you're using a "common name" which isn't even credited ONCE (not correctly, at least) in the entire Invelos-database. I certainly understand it, but it's just not the "most-credited form"... By now, the other Morgan Freeman's 1937 birth year is getting propagated throughout the database more and more, and this "creative" solution is not enough ammo to stop that, I'm afraid.

I've run into similar issues several times: it would be absolutely great if we could use those rarely used middle initials to differentiate between namesakes. But we can't: it's just not the "most-credited form", and additionally, it's impossible to get all users around the world on the same page if each of us starts to implement their own "based on practicality, not on facts" common names.