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| Registered: July 20, 2007 |  Posts: 10 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hello all.
I've got a problem with two Amber Smith...
The first one is born in 1972 and play in :
- American beauty
- Dead end
- LA Confidential
and i've got a second one in my db who played in :
- The rules of attraction.
IMDb says that they aren't the same one but Cineman (http://www.cineman.ch/fr/entertainfo/amber-smith.html) says that they are the same person.
Someone can help me ? |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 254 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, for what it's worth, I can't find any indication (other than IMDb) that they are not the same person. I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if IMDb has gotten it wrong. | | | | "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | At Wikepedia there is no mentioning of rules of attraction. Her website is down Her agent has nothing on his website, for this movie and says: Quote:
For Amber's full, in-depth resume, please contact email us at: info@intriguemanagement.com rotten tomatoes does not have her for rules of attraction | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Your Profile is wrong. Amber Smith does not appear in "The Rules of Attraction". Looks like the contributor copied the cast list from IMDb. Unless the Amber Smith in "The Rules of Attraction" at IMDb refers to the Porn Star Amber Smith. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection | | | | Last edited: by Bad Father |
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| Registered: July 20, 2007 | | Posts: 10 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks at all for your answers.
To 8ballMax :
My profile for "The Rules of Attraction" is correct. I verified it completely and Amber Smith is credited well at 1h46mn00s at the end of the Cast.
On the other hand, if you say that she is a porn star and not Amber Smith (1972), it answers completely to my question.
But can I add the birth day of Amber Smith (1972) according with :
- IMDb : http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0807291/
- Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Smith
- Cineman : http://www.cineman.ch/fr/entertainfo/amber-smith.html |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Klael:
Based on what I have beenreading it seems we are talking TWO different Amber Smith's here. That is the function of the BY, and only one of them needs to have a BY to differentiate the two. Howevere, you must be sure to setup Amber Smith (1972) with your documentation AND Amber Smith so the two people WULL be sepparated and not combined into one name.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting klael: Quote:
Thanks at all for your answers.
To 8ballMax :
My profile for "The Rules of Attraction" is correct. I verified it completely and Amber Smith is credited well at 1h46mn00s at the end of the Cast.
On the other hand, if you say that she is a porn star and not Amber Smith (1972), it answers completely to my question.
But can I add the birth day of Amber Smith (1972) according with :
- IMDb : http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0807291/
- Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Smith
- Cineman : http://www.cineman.ch/fr/entertainfo/amber-smith.html Once this is accepted, could you please add it to the pinned BY thread? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: July 20, 2007 | | Posts: 10 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks Skipnet50 for the explanation and ok to Unicus69, I add it in the BY Thread.
Thanks at all for helping me. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Klael:
Based on what I have beenreading it seems we are talking TWO different Amber Smith's here. That is the function of the BY, and only one of them needs to have a BY to differentiate the two. Howevere, you must be sure to setup Amber Smith (1972) with your documentation AND Amber Smith so the two people WULL be sepparated and not combined into one name.
Skip As I understand it, we need BY's for both Amber Smith's, otherwise when the one with a BY is downloaded it will change the other Amber Smith to have that BY - and they will be linked together. | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
As I understand it, we need BY's for both Amber Smith's, otherwise when the one with a BY is downloaded it will change the other Amber Smith to have that BY - and they will be linked together. I'm not sure if the program does that. However I do know that if you download a profile without a BY it automatically assigns the lowest BY from your database, which is just as bad! Edit: I've just tried it and you're right, it does. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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Klael:
Based on what I have beenreading it seems we are talking TWO different Amber Smith's here. That is the function of the BY, and only one of them needs to have a BY to differentiate the two. Howevere, you must be sure to setup Amber Smith (1972) with your documentation AND Amber Smith so the two people WULL be sepparated and not combined into one name.
Skip
As I understand it, we need BY's for both Amber Smith's, otherwise when the one with a BY is downloaded it will change the other Amber Smith to have that BY - and they will be linked together. Good thought. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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  | mlr | | HearAnyGoodStoriesLately? |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 173 |
| | Posted: | | | | I see on the "INVALID BIRTH YEARS" List Amber Smith [1972] is still listed... HEREHow do I list her? Here's what I found so far: Amber Smith [?] Porn Actress 1 (1993-1994) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0807292/ http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=AmberSmith/gender=f/Amber-Smith.htm Movies: Lovin' Spoonfuls #4 More Dirty Debutantes #31* Black Dirty Debutantes #1* *In DVDP db Amber Smith [?] Porn Actress 2 (2002) http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=AmberSmith02/gender=f/Amber-Smith.htm Movie: More Dirty Debutantes #225 Amber Smith [1971]** http://www.myspace.com/59114257 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0807291/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Smith http://www.allrovi.com/search/people/Amber+Smith http://www.allmovie.com/artist/amber-smith-p223599 http://www.hollywood.com/celebrity/1124891/Amber_Smith Movies: American Beauty, Mirror Has Two Faces & L.A. Confidential... **Some website list her BY as 1972-03-02, on all above sites she's listed as 1971, on her MySpace if you move your mouse pointer over Headshot it list her age as 41. Also imdb\wiki doesn't list her with the Cast of Rules of Attraction... IMdb gave the credit to the 1st Porn Stars, I watched Rules of Attraction's Chapter 15 "Never Fully Dressed" over & over and nowhere can I find the IMdb black Porn Actress. Websites: allrovi, hollywood, flixster & http://www.aveleyman.com/FilmCredit.aspx?FilmID=27142 (with a snap) list the 1971 Smith, which (snap) I can't find in the scene + if you play the movie with commentary it's the only scene where they say they hired Porn Stars to walk naked... If it's the 1971 Actress it's fine, but if it's the 2nd Amber Smith Porn Star...how do I enter her in the db...? | | | | Last edited: by mlr |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Interesting, there is only one porn Amber Smith despite 2 listings on imdb and even iafd (much more reliable for porn info). I checked both ladies and found what you all had, but then I clicked on a link to order the lone dvd (*and movie) of the 2nd AS, and the back of the box of that says
"ever wonder what happened to a girl almost 10 years after making her debut in one of my tapes? Wonder no further, here's Amber Smith, who was in the first 'Black Debutantes' volume. She didn't go all the way back then and she says this is her first boy/girl scene"
NSFW link to the covers:
http://www.bushdvd.com/sales-detail.asp?TitleId=9620
Since this name variant has only this title on 2 sites, and this title's box says she was in the eariler that both sites say had an Amber Smith in them... my professional opinion is they are the same person.
EDIT: also found a review of "Black Dirty Debutantes" that she is in and that confirms the porn Amber is a black woman. Also NSFW (no pics, juts dirty text) link to the review:
http://www.rame.net/reviews/misc/blackdd.html
The review comfirms she "didn't go all the way", ust like the box for 225 says.
More and more likely the famous hot blonde is in the Rules of Attraction. She never shyed away from nudity, so she probably is among the porn stars. If you count softcore as porn, you could call her a porn star already! | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| mlr | | HearAnyGoodStoriesLately? |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 173 |
| | Posted: | | | | BDH, Thank you for the extra info, the credit then must goes to ...Amber the Model/Actress.
The only question left, any objections to assigning the BY as 1971 and not 1972?
Thanks |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mlr: Quote:
BDH, Thank you for the extra info, the credit then must goes to ...Amber the Model/Actress.
The only question left, any objections to assigning the BY as 1971 and not 1972?
Thanks I have no issue with this, it seems to be more likely the correct info anyway. Her site is back up and running, but I can't find any BY info there to say 100%, but over 90% of the sites I've seen say 1971. Then some sites say both! The top line here says 1972, but scroll down a bit and where the text starts it says 1971. |
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| mlr | | HearAnyGoodStoriesLately? |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 173 |
| | Posted: | | | | BDH, It's on her MySpace move your mouse over her Profile Picture a side pop-up block appears saying: Amber Smith Female Age 41 |
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