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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 465 |
| Posted: | | | | I am having a discussion with some other users about the country of origin for "Rambo" ("Rambo IV" or "John Rambo" as the movie is named in other countries).
The credits state "Millenium Films presents a Nu Image Production for Equity Pictures Medienfonds GmbH & Co KG IV" and in the copyright section you can find the entry "EQUITY PICTURES MEDIENFONDS GmbH & Co. KG is the author and creator of this motion picture for purposes of copyright and other laws in all countries throughout the world".
According to the other users' opinions the country of origin should be "Germany" (because of Equity Pictures Medienfonds, a German company), while in my opinion the first listed production company "Nu Image Productions" makes "United States" the correct entry.
Unfortunately problems like this one are still not clarified in the rules. So what do you think ? | | | Michael |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | US-based film production company Nu Image/Millennium Films have acquired the film (did buy the movie) could not yet determine who made effectively the movie?: Nu Image/Millennium Films - Production Company Emmett/Furla Films - Production CompanyEquity Pictures Medienfonds GMBH & Co KG - Production CompanyLionsgate - Domestic Theatrical Distributor The Weinstein Company - Production CompanyNu-Metro - Foreign Theatrical Distributor Sony Pictures Releasing International (SPRI) - Foreign Theatrical Distributor Paradise Film Distribution Company (Russia) - Foreign Theatrical Distributor CatchPlay - Foreign Distribution Rights Future Film Ltd (Finland) - Foreign Distribution Rights Lionsgate - Domestic Video Distributor Garsu Pasaulio Irasai (GPI) - Foreign Theatrical Distributor New Lineo Cinemas - Foreign Theatrical Distributor Euforia Film - Foreign Theatrical Distributor Moonlight Films - Foreign Theatrical Distributor CDI Films - Foreign Theatrical Distributor | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote: The credits state "Millenium Films presents a Nu Image Production for Equity Pictures Medienfonds GmbH & Co KG IV" This tells me that Nu Image has produced the film. Quote: and in the copyright section you can find the entry "EQUITY PICTURES MEDIENFONDS GmbH & Co. KG is the author and creator of this motion picture for purposes of copyright and other laws in all countries throughout the world". The copyright situation is not relevant for the country of origin as it is used in profiler. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 82 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: US-based film production company Nu Image/Millennium Films have acquired the film (did buy the movie)
Do you have a source for that? The company name EQUITY PICTURES MEDIENFONDS suggest the film was made with "stupid German money" (money from media fonds, like "LotR 2" or "We Were Soldiers"), so IMHO this would make the film a German/US co-production. The question is how do we weigh the importance of the production companies to decide what CoO gets listed... and then: can we at all? In this case I don't think so since it is rather improbable that one of the producers shows up here and tells us how exactly the film was produced... The solution would be to allow for more than one CoO but that's for Ken to decide... | | | Bye, Elwood |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote: The credits state "Millenium Films presents a Nu Image Production for Equity Pictures Medienfonds GmbH & Co KG IV" Based on this credit I would say Nu Image are the company we're looking at, as they're the only ones who get a "production" credit. The fact that it says "for Equity Pictures" suggests that they actually paid for the film, but we don't follow the money for this credit. Ideally yes, a German/US co-production may be more appropriate. But I wouldn't vote against a US CoO if someone really insisted on submitting one. I would however vote against a German CoO as the credit above strongly suggests they weren't the primary production company. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 20,111 |
| Posted: | | | | I would say it's a US production. Here's an old web article from 2005: Nu Image/Millenium Films begins 'Rambo IV'Quote: US-based film production company Nu Image/ Millennium Films have acquired the film rights to the 'Rambo' film franchise from Miramax/ Dimension Films, with principal shooting for 'Rambo IV' to begin in Sofia, Bulgaria in January 2006, with filming locations in India and the USA. http://forums.prophecy.co.za/f8/rambo-4-moves-over-nu-image-millennium-films-23379/Quote: It's a greenlight for bulky Italian's with a penchant for bullet scattering.
"Rambo IV" begins preliminary shooting in Bulgaria in January 2006, as Nu Image/Millennium Films acquire film rights from Miramax/ Dimension Films. Stallone is ready to shoot ''Rambo IV."Quote: Nu Image/Millennium Films, the production company that announced last week it would produce an Edgar Allan Poe biopic to be written and directed by Stallone, announced on Sunday that it had purchased the Rambo franchise rights from Miramax/Dimension Films and was planning a shoot on locations in Bulgaria, India, and the U.S. starting in January 2006, after Stallone shoots Poe this fall. In his own statement, Stallone said, ''I've signed the deal and I have the old headband, machine gun and bow and arrow ready to go. I am looking forward to showing movie fans the real action hero again.'' Nu Image Making Rambo IV in 2006!Quote: Nu Image/ Millennium Films had a co-production deal with Miramax/ Dimension Films, which had been in place till the Weinstein Brothers left both companies. Nu Image/ Millennium Films acquired the rights to the ‘Rambo’ film franchise, with their chairman, Lerner, stating that Stallone is "one of the smartest guys I know." Having persuaded Stallone to co-star with a younger actor in ‘Rambo IV’, Lerner is confident about the film’s future success. "It’s a franchise," he says. "If No. 4 works, then you have a No. 5." More articles of interest: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x3372879http://www.movieweb.com/news/64/15164.phphttp://us.rediff.com/movies/2005/may/31raja.htm | | | Corey |
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Registered: March 28, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,299 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote: "John Rambo" as the movie is named in other countries Do you happen to know a country where the movie was named this? That was the original title here too, but for some bizarre reason it got changed to just Rambo, but I'm interested in getting some posters from a country where the original title was retained... KM | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS! Dolly's not alone. You can also clone profiles. You've got questions? You've got answers? Take the DVD Profiler Wiki for a spin. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,029 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: Quoting TigiHof:
Quote: "John Rambo" as the movie is named in other countries Do you happen to know a country where the movie was named this? That was the original title here too, but for some bizarre reason it got changed to just Rambo, but I'm interested in getting some posters from a country where the original title was retained... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462499/releaseinfoQuote: John Rambo Belgium (French title) / Croatia / Denmark / Finland / France / Germany / Greece / Italy / Poland / Switzerland (English title) / Turkey (Turkish title) / USA (working title) To quote Mark Harrison: "I like IMDb". | | | Matthias |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: Quoting TigiHof:
Quote: "John Rambo" as the movie is named in other countries Do you happen to know a country where the movie was named this? That was the original title here too, but for some bizarre reason it got changed to just Rambo, but I'm interested in getting some posters from a country where the original title was retained...
KM Goodguy already listed the countries. The reason it was called JR in Germany is, because the first part was already called "Rambo" here. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting goodguy: Quote: To quote Mark Harrison: "I like IMDb". And as usual, IMDB has incorrect data. At least Finnish DVD and Blu-ray releases are Rambo, not John Rambo. |
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