I realize that this is a bit of a rant, but given how picky some people are when it comes to the "rules" I wanted to voice my opinion on a recent submission.

The title is "the Ultimate Attraction" and the upc is 736991664999.

A submission was made for no other purpose than to alter the existing genres, which were listed as "adult" and "comedy."  The only alteration sought was to remove the genre- "adult."

With respect to genre changes the rules provide as follows:

"Do not make contributions that only change or re-order Genres, unless the existing Genre list is blatantly incorrect."

I voted against this submission for two reasons- first and foremost I believe it clearly violates the rule cited above.  Second, I believe the genre adult is entirely appropriate for this title.  Anyone who owns this movie knows that this is soft-core porn (or "erotica" if you prefer a more appropriate term) from start to finish.  It exists for no other reason.  As the submission stands now, it is solely categorized in the same genre as films such as Caddyshack, the Pink Panther, and Fletch.  If I walked into virtually any video store in the United States (I'm sure there are one or two that would defy this rule  ) I would never find this title on the same shelf.  IMHO, the current genre (standing by itself) is blatantly incorrect.

The user that submitted the change did start the topic regarding what is an adult title and this change was apparently submitted in accordance with that thread.  However, I respectfully disagree with the interpretation of the response given in that thread.  I read Invelos' response in that thread to mean that the adult "rating" will only be enforced with respect to hard-core pornographic titles (which I believe is very different than a genre classification).

When it comes to genres I realize that they are subject to interpretation, however, given the nature of this movie, I still fail to see how anyone could consider the prior existing genre as blatantly incorrect.  As such, I think the submission should have been denied.  It's not as if the existing genre was "martial arts" or something wholly unrelated to the movie.

I realize that I can lock the genre in any fashion I please locally; what bothers me is that I take the time to vote and to read the rules, and to explain my vote, but I feel like it's almost a waste of time.

Finally, if "adult" genre and "adult" rating are intended to only apply to "hard-core" titles, then what's the point of having both items?  One renders the other superfluous.  For the "adult" genre to have any purpose or meaning, it should be able to be used to categorize a broader spectrum of titles than  "hard-core" movies only.

So if I understand correctly, a movie that meets the criteria of "If the cover has full nudity or explicit content" then you require that at least one of genre or rating be set to adult. But if it doesn't fit the above criteria it could still be classified as an adult title, but you will accept the submission even if it doesn't where the first case would always be rejected.

would that be a correct understanding?

-Agrare

I looked at the title in question and I think it certainly qualifies for getting an Adult genre.  It looks like soft-core porn to me.  And I think the intended audience on this one is clearly adults.

That's just my opinion, but that combined with the fact that the only change to the profile was to remove a genre, I think the contribution should have been voted down and the Adult genre should have remained.  It's not like that genre slot was used for something more descriptive.  It looks like an unnecessary change that should have stayed in the contributor's local database.

I also see Ken's statement applying to hardcore pornography, but I don't see that it provides any guidelines at all for something like this.