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Copying old profiles...again.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Well, just got the latest release of High Noon that just came out today.  The profile doesn't even have disk ID's, yet we've got 25 uncredited actors. 

Thanks.
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yet we've got 25 uncredited actors

Undocumented, I suppose?
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Of course.  My only consolation is that this release actually has a commentary, so perhaps we can finally document all these folks.
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I thought copying information from an old profile was an acceptable method of adding information to a new release. Is this not the case? Or are we talking a special case here because of all the uncredited actors?

KM
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I think it is acceptable (minus the uncredited... they should be sourced per profile IMO)... but I think it should also be verified against the credits anyway... 2 reasons...

1. how do you know for sure where the info in the other profile came from
2. even if other profile says it comes from the disc itself... everyone can make mistakes... better safe then sorry.
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I agree with Pete.
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I'm throwing in the idea of the reference-profile again, so that identified uncredited cast members don't have to be sourced for every profile, but just once for every movie.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Quoting Astrakan:
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I thought copying information from an old profile was an acceptable method of adding information to a new release. Is this not the case? Or are we talking a special case here because of all the uncredited actors?

KM

Generally speaking, I would agree with you.  For me, the problem is primarily the undocumented as anything else can quite easily be verified.

Look, the first DVD release in region 1 of High Noon was back in '98.  Now, I don't know exactly when Profiler got started, but it's safe to say that this movie would have been an early one to get added.  As most folks know, we weren't always so...careful...with where we got our data back then.  All well and good, but this blindly copying of old profiles means that I can theoretically be recycling 10-year-old garbage.  To compound matters, once that stuff gets in the profile, now it's incumbent upon me to prove that it shouldn't be there.

For all I know, all that information in the profile is perfectly legitimate, but the problem is that none of us really do know.  We just figure, "Well it's been there for a while so it must be good."

I like the idea of a reference profile.  I will say, if you are going to go through the trouble of copying a profile, then it shouldn't be too much to ask to copy the pertinent notes as well.  At least for the stuff that can't be verified against the disk.

Oh, and if there are no existing notes to justify uncredited, that alone should be a pretty big clue.
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Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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I think it is acceptable (minus the uncredited... they should be sourced per profile IMO)... but I think it should also be verified against the credits anyway... 2 reasons...

1. how do you know for sure where the info in the other profile came from
2. even if other profile says it comes from the disc itself... everyone can make mistakes... better safe then sorry.

I was actually going say the same thing. I don't see a problem in copying only the credited actors to the new profile for a temporary fix and once the disc gets released, verify the info.
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