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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | Voting on contribution? Why bother?
"Midnight" (1939) 025193312921
I voted no and pointed out that cast and crew were copied from IMDB,
I compared it as I had just finished my own profile so I knew it did not agree with film credits.
It was approved any way.
I can understand doubt about the title of a crew member or what ever
But this is an old film very plain and simple cast listing.
IMDB wins again. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | the screener may have overlooked your no vote. rhodemi1 stated: Added Cast and Crew from End credits If the data copied from IDMB is only the roles for the cast as cast has no roles credited in the end credits, that should be ok.: (from the credit rules) Quote:
...If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source to identify the role. In each case, list Actor’s names and roles (when given) exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited... If however other things where taken form the imdb page then this should not happened: Quote:
The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself. Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover. In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible.
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Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits. Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead. Quote:
...take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited... so if it is the second case. contributed your profile and explain that the data form previous contribution was an exact copy of the IMDB website and did not follow the rules. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
Voting on contribution? Why bother?
Because MOST of the time Voting comments are listened to acted upon properly. It's a much better system to have a good voting mechanism (though a few mistakes are made, screeners are human!) than no voting system (or not voting) and having many more mistakes get through. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have submitted a correction.
Sorry my comments on the corrections sd fancy, as I didn't read your posts.
What made me mad was the comments were a bald face lie.
The file has no crew end credits. Films oof this era rarely do. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | the rules don't allow for crew credits if those are not in the movie credits on dvd. In my view your totaly correct in contributing the corrections. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
the rules don't allow for crew credits if those are not in the movie credits on dvd. In my view your totaly correct in contributing the corrections. Agreed! | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | All too often people are claiming they are taking the credits from the DVD's credits when it is later proved to be a direct copy from IMDb.
Even though I have been sat in the side-lines for the last few months - I still notice the contributions, read the forums, and noticed the down load alter then re-uploading of the cover scans.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've received that:
A reputation feedback submission from your account has been reversed, and your reputation score has been lowered by a corresponding amount. Invelos administrators monitor reputation feedback to ensure negative feedback is used only where warranted.
because I gave a negative feedback for this NoVote"I prefer the old scans"
but thats no reason to rate negative, and without any good reasons |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | A no vote, and a negative feedback are two totally different things. The feedback (reputation system, green and red arrows) are not meant as to show your agreement. Negative votes (the red arrow) is meant to curb inappropriate behavior (see ken's initial post on the system here) That is different than a no vote on a contribution, which has no effect on your reputation (the star(s) you see under some peoples name) you should also have a star in the upper right of your screen that you can click on to see your reputation (as well as some info on the system). A no vote on a contribution is to point out something wrong with the contribution as per the contribution rules. Since cover scans are highly subjective, it has been recommended by Gerri to point out why yours is better, but if they are close, a no vote with the reason of preferring the old scans is perfectly acceptable. -Agrare |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agrare is absolutely correct, Nimroid. If you gave negative feedback, as opposed to a simple NO on the contribution vote, on a comment such "I prefer the old scans", then you were dead wrong and got what you deserved for it. That is not an insulting comment and the user is entitled to his opinion, you might disagree with him and that is you opinion, that in my view would constitute gross misuse of the reputation system.
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting nimrod85: Quote:
I've received that:
A reputation feedback submission from your account has been reversed, and your reputation score has been lowered by a corresponding amount. Invelos administrators monitor reputation feedback to ensure negative feedback is used only where warranted.
because I gave a negative feedback for this NoVote"I prefer the old scans"
but thats no reason to rate negative, and without any good reasons Personally, I would try and explain why I prefer the old scans over the new ones, BUT as Agrare pointed out cover scans are highly subjective, so I don't see anything wrong with just saying what you prefer. Anyway, the Screeners will decide on your contribution and on the reasons of the No votes, but that has nothing to do with the Reputation system. The Red button should only be used in case of misbehavior and personal attacks, not for simple disagreements like that. EDIT: I even got a Positive rating for a NO vote  But that was probably because I provided some info that was useful for resubmitting with correct data. | | | | -- Enry | | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | This reminds me of the time recently where I got a NO vote to a contibution because the voter said essentially, "I hated this movie." His vote had nothing to do with my contribution, but was merely his opinion about THE FILM. I initially gave him a red arrow but within minutes thought better of it and retracted the red arrow. But I still wish there were some way to criticize a person for so blatantly violating the purpose for voting. The rep system isn't that vehicle, but there should be some way to publicly admonish someone for making such a ridiculous NO vote. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think the red-arrow was completely called for in this instance, you should have left it. "I hated this movie" indeed. Makes you wonder why they own the dvd...  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Maybe the fact that they do own the DVD is the reason they have such a negative response to it. I have some LPs , CDs and video tapes like that -- things I look back on and wonder what ever possessed me to spend good money on them. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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