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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm doing an audit right now for a movie most don't and won't have (The Rage - Unrated 025195034012) but still want to get it right.
Foir the first time I can recall, I am seeing an opening credit of "Lighting Designer", which I know enough about to movies to know is really the same as cinematographer. Should this guy get a cinematographer credit or leave it out due to wording (there is another guy clearly listed as DoP, so the colum won't be empty)? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nope.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Lighting Designer is not the same as Cinematographer.
Generally Lighting Designer is a stage term, used in theater to indicate the person in charge of lighting the stage -- working with the director, the choreographer, the art director and the set designer to achieve the best results for the production.
These days, in film, Cinematographer and Director of Photography are essentially interchangable (wasn't always thus). One of these will direct the Lighting Technician(s) on how to get the photographic effect(s) needed for the filming of each scene.
I imagine a Lighting Director on a film would be a Lighting Technician who designs more than usual, and might even create lighting designs beyond what the Cinematographer or DoP cares to do (or can do).
In the past, the subtle difference between Cinematographer and DoP was directly related to how much lighting design the Cinematographer did, as opposed to how little the DoP did. So your Lighting Designer fits right into the older definitions of Cinematographer and DoP.
So, to repeat Skip's concise reply: Nope. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| | Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
Lighting Designer is not the same as Cinematographer.
Generally Lighting Designer is a stage term, used in theater to indicate the person in charge of lighting the stage -- working with the director, the choreographer, the art director and the set designer to achieve the best results for the production.
These days, in film, Cinematographer and Director of Photography are essentially interchangable (wasn't always thus). One of these will direct the Lighting Technician(s) on how to get the photographic effect(s) needed for the filming of each scene.
I imagine a Lighting Director on a film would be a Lighting Technician who designs more than usual, and might even create lighting designs beyond what the Cinematographer or DoP cares to do (or can do).
In the past, the subtle difference between Cinematographer and DoP was directly related to how much lighting design the Cinematographer did, as opposed to how little the DoP did. So your Lighting Designer fits right into the older definitions of Cinematographer and DoP.
So, to repeat Skip's concise reply: Nope. Thanks for the info, at least I was close.  I left him out and already submited so I'll erase my note to self of his name. I had a feeling it would be a no. For the explainantion you get an arrow (Skip's "concise reply" doesn't).  | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
| | Registered: April 14, 2007 | | Posts: 433 |
| | Posted: | | | | I know one Lighting Designer out here in LA, and what he does is program light displays. He did the animated light displays behind the actors in a series of CBS TV spots. He also did the animted lighting on this Lenny Kravitz video. He is not he DoP or Cinematographer | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by cmaeditor |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
Quoting VibroCount:
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Lighting Designer is not the same as Cinematographer.
Generally Lighting Designer is a stage term, used in theater to indicate the person in charge of lighting the stage -- working with the director, the choreographer, the art director and the set designer to achieve the best results for the production.
These days, in film, Cinematographer and Director of Photography are essentially interchangable (wasn't always thus). One of these will direct the Lighting Technician(s) on how to get the photographic effect(s) needed for the filming of each scene.
I imagine a Lighting Director on a film would be a Lighting Technician who designs more than usual, and might even create lighting designs beyond what the Cinematographer or DoP cares to do (or can do).
In the past, the subtle difference between Cinematographer and DoP was directly related to how much lighting design the Cinematographer did, as opposed to how little the DoP did. So your Lighting Designer fits right into the older definitions of Cinematographer and DoP.
So, to repeat Skip's concise reply: Nope.
Thanks for the info, at least I was close.
I left him out and already submited so I'll erase my note to self of his name. I had a feeling it would be a no. For the explainantion you get an arrow (Skip's "concise reply" doesn't). Bigdady: Didn't need an explanation. I don't much care how yous define it or sort it, we don't have "Lighting Designer" listed therefore the answer is very simple. Nope. Maybe late..but not now. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Didn't need an explanation. I don't much care how yous define it or sort it, we don't have "Lighting Designer" listed therefore the answer is very simple. Nope. Maybe late..but not now.
Skip I like the idea that the rule can be understood beyond the simplistic level of "the rule exists (outside of any logical explanation or rationale), therefore follow it without understanding it." I think that we are capable of understanding why a Lighting Director is not a Cinematographer nor a DoP. Following the rules is easier when we understand the definitions of the terms we use. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff | | | | Last edited: by VibroCount |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Cliff:
I wasn't faulting you.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Cliff:
I wasn't faulting you.
Skip It was an honest mistake on my part. From watching enough behind the scenes and listening to commentaries it seemed to me like the Cimetographer was responsible for the lighting, so I just went with logic (plus there's the whole "In the Mouth of Madness" commentary, which is almost exclsuively the cimeatographer talking about lighting). I just thought they were the same and this a wording issue, so I asked. I could care less if the guy gets a credit, I only asked to make sure. That being said, Vibro went the extra mile to educate instead of just saying no. I always prefer answers with reasons over those without. I'm not going to try making a stand to get lighting designers a credit, although they may deserve one.  That's another thread for a another time. |
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