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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Hi, the problem of contribution notes being cut short on the voting page is well known and been discussed many times, but I've just noticed something I'm sure hasn't been mentioned before: I've just gone in to edit a note that was too long for the voting page, but after I'd submitted the change I noticed that the note had actually been cut short, the extra stuff you wouldn't get to see on the voting page had now been removed completely. Has anyone else noticed this? |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | Confirmed: Contribution comments for [8713045202118.9] According the dvd, dvd cover and movie credits on dvd: Disc Info: The accidental spy[06058CDA994034B6] SL CREW: Writing: Rod Dean: Original Material By (-) (consultant) Ivy Ho: Original Material By > Screenwriter Production: Stephen Chu: Executive Producer (+) Raymond Chow: Producer (-) not in credits Candy Leung: Producer (-) not in credits Bob Weinstein: Executive Producer (+) Harvey Weinstein: Executive Producer (+) Cinematography: Wing-Hung Wong: Cinematographer > Wong Wing Hang: Director of Photography Film Editing: Chi-Leung Kwong: Film Editor > Kong Chi Leung Music: Michael Wandmacher: Composer (+) Peter Kam: Composer (-) not in credits Pui Tat Kam: Composer (-) not in credits Sound: Steve Chan Wai Hung: Production Sound Mixer (+) Kinson Tsang: Sound Re-Recording Mixer (+) Lee Yiu Keung: Sound Re-Recording Mixer (+) Kinson Tsang: Sound Designer (+) Val Kuklowsky: Sound (+) Joe Barnett: Sound Re-Recording Mixer (+) Mark Fishman: Sound Re-Recording Mixer (+) Art: Oliver Wong Yui Man: Art Director (+) Noh Me Hae: Art Director (+) CAST: Alfred Cheung as Cheung > Lawyer Lilian Ho as Candice (+) Tat-Ming Cheung as Tsui > Cheung Tat Ming as Stan Vincent Kok as Moving Worker (+) Poon Hang Seng as Rich Man (+) Paulyn Sun as Rich Man's Wife (+) Ha Ping as Cleaning Lady (+) Ken Chang as Cop at Mall (+) Eric Lee as Lee's Bodyguard (+) Jackie Chan as Buck Yuen > Jackie Vivian Hsu as Yong > Young Min-jeong Kim as Carmen Wong > Kim Min Jeong as Carmen Hsing-kuo Wu as Mr. Zen > Wu Hsing Kuo as Lee Murat Yilmaz as Celik (+) Glory Simon as TCN Field Reporter > TCN Reporter Ahmet Uygun as TCN News Crew (+) Rakela Kunyo as TCN News Crew (+) Cheung Tat Chuen as TCN News Crew (+) Erdem Kaya as TCN News Crew (+) Emre Tannverdi as TCN News Crew (+) Abrim Gurgen as TCN News Crew (+) Fatih Koroglu as TCN News Crew (+) Chan Wai Hung as TCN News Crew (+) Bradley James Allan as Lee's Bodyguiard Paul Andreovski as Lee's Bodyguiard Carpio Anthony as Lee's Bodyguiard (+) Gordon William George Milne as Lee's Bodyguiard (+) Siros Niaros as Lee's Bodyguard (+) Scott Edward Atkins as Lee's Bodyguard (+) Raven Choi as Lee's Bodyguard (+) Taner Barlas as Priest (+) Yildnm Ocek as Bank Manager (+) Figen Amber Senbas as Bank Clerk (+)
Turkish Family (+) (divider) Erdinc Olgach as (Dad) (+) Ipek Deger as (Daughter) (+) Burak Damah as (Son) (+)
United Nations Scientists (+) (divider) Sirma Bradley as Scientist (+) Paxton Winters as Scientist (+) Fatih Haciosmanoglu as Scientist (+) Rezzak Aklar as Scientist (+) Nilgun Cinal as Scientist (+) Alay Stailmis as Scientist (+) Orhan Guler as Scientist (+)
Turkish Cops (+) (divider) Murat Alagoz as Cop (+) Ozgur Baltaglu as Cop (+) Gurhan Elmahoglu as Cop (+)
Turkish Hitmen (+) (divider) Bora Karaali as Hitman (+) Selim Karabol as Hitman (+) Ediz Aydin as Hitman (+) Ismail Hakki Onder as Hitman (+) Coskun Lamba as Hitman (+)
Fishing Villagers (+) (divider) Serap Yildirm as Fishing Villager (+) Mehmet Ugur as Fishing Villager (+) Aziz Kaph as Fishing Villager (+) Adem Ugur as Fishing Villager (+) Ayvaz Ozkaph as Fishing Villager (+) Adnan Zaman as Fishing Villager (+) Murat Kaph as Fishing Villager (+)
Herve Decalion as CIA Agent (+) Pamela Spencer as Fishing Village Woman (+) Selim Kocak as Fishing Village Prayer (+) Hamit Suzen as Fishing Village Kid (+) Kamal Inci as Turkish Cab Driver (+) Konya Dance as Opera House's Performance (+) Leyla Komurcu as Woman at Opera House (+) Harika Ucar as Woman at Opera House (+) Tulin Sahin as Woman at Opera House (+) Didem Erol as Woman at Opera House (+) Seda Akman as Woman at Opera House (+) Ebru Destan as Woman at Opera House (+) Huseyin Yirik as Lee's Guest (+) Selman Turna as Lee's Guest (+) Ayko Bogazcan as Lee's Guest (+) Cenalp Kucuksu as Lee's Guest (+) Joh Young Kwon as Jackie's Dad (+) Choo Gyne Jung as Jackie's Mom (+) Chan Sai Tang as Hitman at Hospital (+) Chan Siu Wah as Hitman at Hospital (+) Fung Wai Lun as Hitman at Hospital (+) Ng Man Ching as Korean Officer (+) Chan Kam Chuen as Korean Officer (+) Stephanie Wong as Korean Officer (+) Kennedy Lau as Korean Officer (+) Liu Yick Man as Korean Officer (+) Yan Gin Wai as Robber (+) Kwan Yung as Robber (+) Wong Man Chun as Cop at Mall (+) Tdang Gin Yung as Cop at Mall (+) Lee Sun Him as Cop at Mall (+) James Hills as Beggar (+) Ray Pang as Bartender (+) Wong Ming Sing as Salesman (+) Anthony Rene Jones as Philip Ashley (as Tony Jones) > Tony Jones as Ashley
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*Updated Notes* According the dvd, dvd cover and movie credits on dvd: Disc Info: The accidental spy[06058CDA994034B6] SL CREW: Writing: Rod Dean: Original Material By (-) (consultant) Ivy Ho: Original Material By > Screenwriter Production: Stephen Chu: Executive Producer (+) Raymond Chow: Producer (-) not in credits Candy Leung: Producer (-) not in credits Bob Weinstein: Executive Producer (+) Harvey Weinstein: Executive Producer (+) Cinematography: Wing-Hung Wong: Cinematographer > Wong Wing Hang: Director of Photography Film Editing: Chi-Leung Kwong: Film Editor > Kong Chi Leung Music: Michael Wandmacher: Composer (+) Peter Kam: Composer (-) not in credits Pui Tat Kam: Composer (-) not in credits Sound: Steve Chan Wai Hung: Production Sound Mixer (+) Kinson Tsang: Sound Re-Recording Mixer (+) Lee Yiu Keung: Sound Re-Recording Mixer (+) Kinson Tsang: Sound Designer (+) Val Kuklowsky: Sound (+) Joe Barnett: Sound Re-Recording Mixer (+) Mark Fishman: Sound Re-Recording Mixer (+) A | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Posts: 78 |
| Posted: | | | | Why do you repeat the complete contribution in the notes? It's redundant and leaving it out would shorten the notes |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Also, Geri made a plea for contributors to try and make as short contribution notes as possible. | | | Paul | | | Last edited: by pauls42 |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | How will you document all changes made? | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: How will you document all changes made? This seems to work for me...; Improved Cover Scans. Existing ones are washed out and blurry and also too bright.Capitalization correction to Title.CoO added. Production Year corrected.SRP and release verified from www.cdon.comStudios as credited (visually verified).Features updated. Verified from DVD Menu.Overview corrected to match back cover.Disc ID added (layers verified using DVDInfo Pro).Cast and Crew as credited. Visually verified from Film's credits.I agree with Schizzzo - no need to repeat all the changes you did specifically, that is indicated when viewing the profile changes, so repeating it in the contribution notes seems redundant indeed. | | | Berak
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | Your notes could be condensed to:
Cast & Crew taken from end credits, removed entries not found | | | Last edited: by Dr. Killpatient |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | with this massive change nobody would figure out what happend in the credits: a lot of name changes, people removed, name switching, a lot of voters scrutinize contributions. I find it normal to document what you do in a profile, it got even several . | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Posts: 78 |
| Posted: | | | | But the changes you've made can be seen by clicking on "Evaluate". All I write in the notes is a global description what I've done (e.g. edited cast and crew as credited) and the sources if they differ from the credits (e.g. role descriptors if there are none in the credits).
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* Corrected studios (from written film credits) * Completed features * Added episode list to overview (numbering as on cover) * Crew&cast from credits, using dividers for each episode (numbering as on cover, named as in credits) -- Only some actors are credited with role descriptors, sources for the rest: --- http://www.thelogbook.com/logbook/series/lexx/page/3/ --- http://www.thelogbook.com/logbook/series/lexx/page/4/ --- http://www.sadgeezer.com/review?page=73 --- http://www.sadgeezer.com/review?page=74 -- Common names determined with CLT (and verified) * New cover scans (higher resolution, less compression artefacts, cleaned from scratches, less moirée effects)
If there are reasonable no-votes you can update the notes with detailed explanations | | | Last edited: by schizzzo |
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Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Giga:
I believe we are supposed to document the *source* of the changes. The changes themselves can be seen by clicking on Evaluate, as Schizzo said. | | | -- Enry |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: with this massive change nobody would figure out what happend in the credits: a lot of name changes, people removed, name switching, a lot of voters scrutinize contributions. I find it normal to document what you do in a profile, it got even several . But as others have said - when you press evaluate you see all the changes with names (name changes, names removed etc). I guess you got the ticks for making the contribution - not for the notes.. | | | Paul |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | Once contributed, all changes are lost and you can start allover again. If another contributer comes along he/she can check what went on, if you have the short notice, you don't have a clue. | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote: Once contributed, all changes are lost and you can start allover again. If another contributer comes along he/she can check what went on, if you have the short notice, you don't have a clue. It would be nice to have the possibility to show the history of previous changes even after evaluation time. | | | -- Enry |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,804 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote: Quoting Giga Wizard:
Quote: Once contributed, all changes are lost and you can start allover again. If another contributer comes along he/she can check what went on, if you have the short notice, you don't have a clue.
It would be nice to have the possibility to show the history of previous changes even after evaluation time. Yep, maybe as a link in the appropriate profile likewise to the contributor info! | | | Thorsten |
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