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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,749 |
| Posted: | | | | I have searched the forums as best as I could and can't seem to find the answer to this. How do you fugure out the actual aspect ratio of a movie? I know that sometimes the boxes are incorrect and IMDb isn't reliable. I have found a few programs that don't quite do the job. Someone here has been changing aspect rations, I think based on measurements from their screen. Is there a web site that will tell you, accurately, what any specific movies true aspect ratio is? TIA MWR | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | The only way is to measure a screen cap from the DVD. But I don't think we should go around changing 2.40:1 to 2.39:1 just because we can... Unless the error is bigger. Exactly how big? I dunno...
(I've changed 1.78:1 to 1.75:1 so I guess that draws the line for me...) | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | The best advice I can offer is, reeder is this. Determining what the theatrical OAR can be difficult. There are variety of tools which can be used to determine the On Screen AR. However, I like Patsa urge caution. We know what the various industry standards are and recognize that in measuring you might be off a few pixels and it takes surprisingly few pixels in error to throw of the AR significantly. So look to your measurement against the industry standards. I would not, however try and differ with printed AR's of 2.35, 2.39 or 2.40, they are simply too close together, now if you have a printed 2.40 and a measured result in the neighborhood of 1.85 obviously the box is probably very wrong. And don't try and use a non-standard like say 2.15, it doesn't exist, anybody that would provide such a measurement I would highly suspicious of.
Just be careful.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
| Posted: | | | | not all releases are released to the movie aspect ratio, for dvd production sometimes you will find full frame 1.33:1 or widescreen or 16:9 enhanced widescreen. | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | Last edited: by ? |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,366 |
| Posted: | | | | Use a program like PowerDVD to display the movie on your computer screen and then use this tool to calculate the AR. For example a picture of 800 pixels wide / 600 pixels high has an aspect ratio of 1.33:1 | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands | | | Last edited: by Daddy DVD |
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Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote: Use a program like PowerDVD to display the movie on your computer screen and then use this tool to calculate the AR.
Nice tool. Also, you can use the Window Info Tool in MWSnap, a freeware screen capture utility. | | | -- Enry | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,293 |
| Posted: | | | | Go by the Rules... if the box says X:1 then, unless you can prove the box is wrong (and I would agree with Skip, significantly wrong) then go with what the box says. | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,749 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks to everyone who responded. I only wanted to know, because I have noticed that several DVDs with ratios printed on the box of 1.85:1 have been changed to 1.78:1 and I have locked them on my local database to avoid wrong info. After downloading a few AR tools and trying them, I also noticed that it's not 100% accurate, but pretty close. I also like the idea of not changing ratios unless they are very different. Again thanks.
MWR | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | This is actually pretty common, reeder. However be careful as well. The difference between 1.78 and 1,85 is very slight and amounts to a tin black band top and bottom that can sometimes be easily missed. Then there are the amusing ocassions when a director will decide to re-frame a 2.35 to 1.78, which always causes howls among the purists, sometimes this done by mistake. If I recall Lord of War was allegedly released in 2.35 AR, only to be discovered that despite the what the box said, it had been reframed to 1.78, caused themselves all kinds of trouble.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | The difference between 1.78 and 1.85 is easy to spot though, unlike say 2.35 and 2.40. If your display shows all pixels that is, sometimes they will crop off the sides due to overscan. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,293 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Patsa: Quote: The difference between 1.78 and 1.85 is easy to spot though, unlike say 2.35 and 2.40. If your display shows all pixels that is, sometimes they will crop off the sides due to overscan. Not always; as you say if your TV has some overscan it could show 1.78 and 1.85 as both totally finning the screen... actually I think mine does! | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,436 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote: Not always; as you say if your TV has some overscan it could show 1.78 and 1.85 as both totally finning the screen... actually I think mine does! Mine does too; and I am not really happy with that somehow. | | | Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan. Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 360 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote: Quoting Voltaire53:
Quote: Not always; as you say if your TV has some overscan it could show 1.78 and 1.85 as both totally finning the screen... actually I think mine does! Mine does too; and I am not really happy with that somehow. 1.78:1 films were completely filling the screen on my 4:3 bedroom set. It wasn't until I changed the aspect ratio setting on the dvd player to 4:3 instead of the 16 x 9 setting it was on that it corrected itself and I got the black bars bacl on the top and bottom. Something to look into. |
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