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  | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | There currently seems to be some disagreement as to wether a cover scan should be of the slip cover or the inner cover (The Mist). Now, lately, R1 releases are issued with a slip cover with a hole in the back showing the UPC. Scanning the inner case in these instances will undeniably be wrong according to the currect rules. And with some users scanning reflective covers as good as they do (rorymatt), I cannot see why users like 8ballmax vote no on contributions without being in violation of the rules. IMO we cannot compare the slip cover to the inner cover in these instances, as they are two different covers, and the rules clearly states to scan the inner cover ONLY when identical to the slip...    | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away!
True love conquers all! | | | | Last edited: by Berak |
| | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | . | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away!
True love conquers all! | | | | Last edited: by Berak |
| | Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm not quite sure what your saying here, are you saying because one as a hole cut in it to reveal the UPC on the other that they cannot be identical even tho apart from that they would be identical. |
| | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
I'm not quite sure what your saying here, are you saying because one as a hole cut in it to reveal the UPC on the other that they cannot be identical even tho apart from that they would be identical. Partly, yes, but mainly my point is that some users scan reflective covers nearly as good as others do the inner cover art, and in these instances (IMO) we should use these scans.. | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away!
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| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote:
Quoting ninehours:
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I'm not quite sure what your saying here, are you saying because one as a hole cut in it to reveal the UPC on the other that they cannot be identical even tho apart from that they would be identical.
Partly, yes, but mainly my point is that some users scan reflective covers nearly as good as others do the inner cover art, and in these instances (IMO) we should use these scans.. I'm not sure what you're saying either. Just because other people can scan reflective covers well, doesn't mean everyone can. If someone has submitted a scan of the keep case because they weren't able to get a good scan, then that's perfectly within the rules. If someone else submits a good scan of the slip cover later - that's even better. But I don't think you can vote no on a keep case scan just because at some point in the future someone else may be able to scan the slip cover well. On the other hand, if someone has submitted a good scan of the reflective slip cover, then you can't vote no on it replacing keep case scans just because it's reflective. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote:
There currently seems to be some disagreement as to wether a cover scan should be of the slip cover or the inner cover (The Mist).
Now, lately, R1 releases are issued with a slip cover with a hole in the back showing the UPC. Scanning the inner case in these instances will undeniably be wrong according to the currect rules. And with some users scanning reflective covers as good as they do (rorymatt), I cannot see why users like 8ballmax vote no on contributions without being in violation of the rules.
IMO we cannot compare the slip cover to the inner cover in these instances, as they are two different covers, and the rules clearly states to scan the inner cover ONLY when identical to the slip... I'm afraid you are mistaken here. You need to read what Gerri posted concerning "the Hole" and "cropping".Also concerning the current slip covers for "The Mist" up for vote...the black levels are off, colors are off...especially on the rear where there is a green hue to everything. IMO, the Keepcase covers, which are identical to the slip covers btw, provide for better quality images. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection | | | | Last edited: by Bad Father |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've had a look at the submission in question (796019810579 I believe) and I have to admit I don't understand your "no" vote either. You're voting no because the user decided to scan the slip cover and not the keep case even though the slip cover is reflective?
In my opinion, those scans are a vast improvement over what's in the online database - the fact that they are of the reflective slip cover and not the keep case is irrelevant - a good scan is a good scan.
If there was something wrong with the scans, I could understand, but I don't see a problem with them.
Edit: I was typing while you were editing. They are better reasons for voting no - I would put them as your reason. But I still honestly believe they are still a "significant improvement" over what is currently there, and that's what we should be voting on, not the fact that you might get a better scan from the keepcase. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 347 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have scanned the inside FRONT cover when I can not get the reflective slip cover to come out correctly, but only when it is IDENTICAL to the slip cover in every way. I have always scanned the back of the slip cover even if it was a reflective because of the hole exposing the UPC. I assumed the scan would be declined if it did not show that.
I personally do not see anything wrong with doing that ... but I personally feel that this should only apply to the front cover. | | | | Antec Nine Hundred case, 4GB A-Data DDR2 800 RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz, ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP MB, XFX GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 video card, ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink, Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s HDD, Zerodba 620W PSU, LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD with LightScribe SATA, Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B SATA, Hanns-G HH281 28" monitor, Kodak ESP3250 printer, Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 speakers, Windows 7 Professional |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
But I still honestly believe they are still a "significant improvement" over what is currently there, and that's what we should be voting on, not the fact that you might get a better scan from the keepcase. I agree, and there are currently no other image submissions for the profile to even vote on or compare to. The database images are only two low-resolution front scans, so how aren't the Slip Cover scans currently up for voting better than those? | | | | Corey |
| | Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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But I still honestly believe they are still a "significant improvement" over what is currently there, and that's what we should be voting on, not the fact that you might get a better scan from the keepcase.
I agree, and there are currently no other image submissions for the profile to even vote on or compare to. The database images are only two low-resolution front scans, so how aren't the Slip Cover scans currently up for voting better than those? Had a look and the existing "scans" appear to be pre release artwork taken from a web site. The new scans are much better resolution but of coarse i don't have the actual covers to compare them with for colour matching. |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
Quoting Katatonia:
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Quoting northbloke:
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But I still honestly believe they are still a "significant improvement" over what is currently there, and that's what we should be voting on, not the fact that you might get a better scan from the keepcase.
I agree, and there are currently no other image submissions for the profile to even vote on or compare to. The database images are only two low-resolution front scans, so how aren't the Slip Cover scans currently up for voting better than those?
Had a look and the existing "scans" appear to be pre release artwork taken from a web site. The new scans are much better resolution but of coarse i don't have the actual covers to compare them with for colour matching. Those previous covers were from a website. FYI I also just uploaded some new scans of the cover as well. | | | We're on a mission from God.
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| | Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Having had a look at the covers they kind of have me intrigued is the film any good, worth buying. |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
Having had a look at the covers they kind of have me intrigued is the film any good, worth buying. Having been a Stephen King fan for years and having enjoyed what Frank Darabount did with Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile, I thought it was pretty good. I didn't even know the movie was made until I saw a listing for the movie in the paper for my local theatre. | | | We're on a mission from God.
| | | | Last edited: by Mike D. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I've had a look at the submission in question (796019810579 I believe) and I have to admit I don't understand your "no" vote either. You're voting no because the user decided to scan the slip cover and not the keep case even though the slip cover is reflective?
In my opinion, those scans are a vast improvement over what's in the online database - the fact that they are of the reflective slip cover and not the keep case is irrelevant - a good scan is a good scan.
If there was something wrong with the scans, I could understand, but I don't see a problem with them.
Edit: I was typing while you were editing. They are better reasons for voting no - I would put them as your reason. But I still honestly believe they are still a "significant improvement" over what is currently there, and that's what we should be voting on, not the fact that you might get a better scan from the keepcase. You're right...I was basing my NO vote comment on the submitter's Contribution Note instead of the reason I don't like the slip cover scans vs. the keepcase covers. I'll edit my note comments. Edit: Since there are now no keepcase covers up for vote concurrently with the slip covers, I've decided to vote neutral on Roymatt's images. I voted NO to eagle61397's submission only because there is way too much yellow on the front cover (sorry eagle  ). My suggestion, take Rorymatt's front image combined with eagle61397's rear and you have a decent set  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection | | | | Last edited: by Bad Father |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | What is sad is there were good images contributed. They were of the inner cover and, IMHO, much better than the ones currently up for vote. Unfortunately, those covers were declined and that person hasn't resubmitted. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
What is sad is there were good images contributed. They were of the inner cover and, IMHO, much better than the ones currently up for vote. Unfortunately, those covers were declined and that person hasn't resubmitted. Well, apparantly the majority are hell bent to have the slip covers for this title. I've submitted slip covers even though I prefer the colors of the keepcase but...oh well. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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