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Question about Dividers
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantAgrare
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just wondering the proper usage for dividers on group roles.

I recently voted no on a contribution that listed cast as

Role
Actor 1
Actor 2
Actor 3
etc.

I voted no and put as my reason that i thought it was an improper use of dividers (no role given for actor). Am I correct in the use of dividers in this situation? the only reason I ask is because I was given a red arrow for this (not too concerned since its only one, and I know its not a valid reason for a red arrow). But I mostly would like to know for future situations that have credits done like this.

-Agrare

*ediit* red arrow was removed
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One of the most recent discussions is here

And here's another from the Contribution Rules committee (if you have access...if you don't a PM to the Overlords requesting access should take care of that)

Rereading the first linked topic your vote seems reasonable.
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This is one of many areas of contention regarding contributions to the main database, but if there's any consensus on it it would be to agree with your interpretation.  While many people would agree with using the divider to separate actors with similar roles, most people wanted each actor to show a role name TOO.  So that when someone does a search on a particular actor, the role he played would be displayed.  If he were lumped under a divider with no role name for him, a search on that actor would only show that he was in a movie but the role he played would be blank.
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Quoting kdh1949:
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most people wanted each actor to show a role name TOO.  So that when someone does a search on a particular actor, the role he played would be displayed. 


Yup!
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I don't use dividers in that way at all. IMHO, this is an excellent example that warrants the use of a divider for the four "Gas 'N Sip Boys":



For this, however, I don't use dividers - I see absolutely no need to duplicate the role name here, once is more than enough. So I'd enter them all (the list continues for another dozen names) as 'Elfette Dancer', without a divider:

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Quoting T!M:
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I don't use dividers in that way at all. IMHO, this is an excellent example that warrants the use of a divider for the four "Gas 'N Sip Boys":



How do you segregate the "Gas 'N Sip Boys" from the remaining cast? Blank divider, blank cast member?
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How do you segregate the "Gas 'N Sip Boys" from the remaining cast? Blank divider, blank cast member?

Blank divider, indeed.
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That's how I would do it too.  Although if it was not done, I would still vote Yes.  It is unfortunately not a requirement so separate "groups" in the credits.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Another question - why are girls listed with the "Gas 'N Sip Boys"? 
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For me the criterium is that the header of the cast should actually differ from their separate roles. For instance it's useless to use a plural name as a divider if the roles of the cast below can all be listed in the singular form.

Note: While it's commonly accepted to list cast roles in a singular form if the header is plural in the credits, adding the word "Member" however isn't. Read this topic about that subject for the reason why.
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Dividers and group roles are completely different animals. Dividers should not be abused for group roles.

Dividers are not connected to the following credits. Therefore you loose them in some situations (e.g. when you click on an actor and show the list of films he's playing in). And there are no end group markers. Therefore you would have to abuse an empty divider for this. Sorting a credit list by name is also not possible if you abuse dividers for group roles.
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