Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Desktop Feature Requests Page: 1  Previous   Next
Theatrical Release
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantcornbetts
The Movie Man
Registered: June 25, 2007
United States Posts: 2
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I would love to see the theatrical release date added to the Profiler.  Remove the production year and replace it with theatrical release
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Belgium Posts: 1,946
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageDirect link to this postReply with quote
Production year is currently used as theatrical release year. There has been a discussion regarding this topic previously. The problem with this approach is, the theatrical release date of which country. Movies often don't have global release dates, risking to get ping-pong contributions.

In my opinion, but this has not been accepted, the value that belongs in there is the copyright date. It is consistent for everyone and can be verified from the credits. As for theatrical release dates, you have to rely on 3rd party databases. 
View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm

Chris
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,018
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote:
The problem with this approach is, the theatrical release date of which country. Movies often don't have global release dates, risking to get ping-pong contributions.


I'd say: the theatrical release date in the film's country of origin. There may however be cases where a film wasn't released in its CoO first...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Belgium Posts: 1,946
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote:
Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote:
The problem with this approach is, the theatrical release date of which country. Movies often don't have global release dates, risking to get ping-pong contributions.


I'd say: the theatrical release date in the film's country of origin. There may however be cases where a film wasn't released in its CoO first...


That still doesn't solve the issue of needing 3rd party info while a verifiable date is available in the credits.
View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm

Chris
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,018
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
True. But it is where we stand today.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
Reg: 31/01/2003
Registered: March 13, 2007
United Kingdom Posts: 2,692
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote:
Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote:
The problem with this approach is, the theatrical release date of which country. Movies often don't have global release dates, risking to get ping-pong contributions.


I'd say: the theatrical release date in the film's country of origin. There may however be cases where a film wasn't released in its CoO first...


and how would anyone contributing a title know this information? In the end, easily verifiable information is the only thing we can contribute.
Paul
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormikl
Mark it zero!
Registered: March 14, 2007
Denmark Posts: 235
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I agree, this is not a good idea. The release dates can also be a bit fuzzy. Sometimes movies get a limited release first, at a festival etc and a wider release later on - especially smaller movies, indies, foreign movies etc. And what about TV shows? original air dates can be difficult to find a reliable source on.
DVD Profiler på Dansk
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,018
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
All of this is true, but it wasn't MY idea (please don't shoot the messenger!  ) - and, moreover, it's not an IDEA but the current RULE.
It is simply what we are supposed to do right now. From the Contribution Rules:

"Production Year
Enter the year of the original theatrical release. For films that have been updated (e.g., a Special Edition or Directors Cut) use the year of the original release, not the year that the re-release was “made” or released."

Yes, there have been discussions before on whether or not to count festival releases, and yes, this information can only be found through third-party sources. (And yes, the current name of this field in DVDP is misleading, I might add...)
I'll grant you all this, but a rule change is required to meet your objections. So please voice your objections in the Contribution Rules Committee rather than to me. 
 Last edited: by dee1959jay
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
If I could change the Rules, I would say that we contribute Copyright Year from film credits, into a field called "Copyright Year", and that's it.

Now we are supposed to contribute the Original Theatrical Release year (in a field called Production Year, as if all movies were released in the same year of production), but how would we know the Original Theatrical Release year for sure, anyway?
Often it's taken from third party databases, and I'll bet from one in particular 
-- Enry
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Desktop Feature Requests Page: 1  Previous   Next