Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Contribution turned down, me not understand !
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSxilderik
Registered: November 11, 2007
France Posts: 44
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
"La 36ème chambre de Shaolin - la trilogie" (UPC 3-700301-001207 ) is a boxset (containing 4 discs, 3 movies and a bonus disc). About everything in it was wrong, so I basically re-built everything : I constructed the boxset, provided correct scan, created the 4 discs as independant entities.

The 4 discs have been accepted, but the boxset itself, not !

"Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions."

All is left on that boxset profile is the overview, which I manually copied from the cover, and I said so in my notes. I removed all language, subtiltes, crew and cast info (since this is a boxset). Got 4 aye, zéro nay.

And got turned down. Please explain ?
Lernu la internacian lingvon
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhayley taylor
Past Contributor
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 1,022
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageDirect link to this postReply with quote
You should try PM'ing Geri at Invelos - she appears always glad to advise why a particular submission has been refused, or look at one that you are certain is 100% ok

http://www.invelos.com/MessagePost.aspx?task=newtopic&type=pm&alias=Gerri Cole
 Last edited: by hayley taylor
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormwkirchner
Everybody down!
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 347
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting richierich:
Quote:
You should try PM'ing Geri at Invelos - she appears always glad to advise why a particular submission has been refused, or look at one that you are certain is 100% ok

http://www.invelos.com/MessagePost.aspx?task=newtopic&type=pm&alias=Gerri Cole


I agree with richierich ... I had that happen to me on an image upload that was definately better then the existing one and it got shot down. I PM'd Geri and she explained that she had hit a button to decline it by accident. She PM'd me back and said that she would okay it.

Worth a PM in my opinion.

Mark
Antec Nine Hundred case, 4GB A-Data DDR2 800 RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz, ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP MB, XFX GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 video card, ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink, Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s HDD, Zerodba 620W PSU, LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD with LightScribe SATA, Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B SATA, Hanns-G HH281 28" monitor, Kodak ESP3250 printer, Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 speakers, Windows 7 Professional
Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeGerri Cole
Invelos Software
Registered: March 10, 2007
United States Posts: 524
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I sent an answer to your PM. The issue was that the contribution notes are not in English, so I cant understand them. There are numerous changes in the profile, so I really need to understand the notes.

If you can't write them in English, you could try posting here, someone might be able to help translate.


-Gerri
Invelos Software, Inc. Representative
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSxilderik
Registered: November 11, 2007
France Posts: 44
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Well well...

I am using french when the profiles I submit are the french edition, because everything on the package is in french, and because the voters are bound to be french or understand french (why else own a french copy of a DVD ?)

Focused on the voting step, I skipped the reviewing step.

I will from now on provide notes in both languages.

(I also missed the point when you take in account the last submissions notes only. I have to make a habit to update my notes cumulatively)

The offending note was "J'ai repris l'overview : c'est maintenant la copie de ce qu'il y a sur le boîtier." which was an addendum to a previous "C'est un box set en fait ! / Tout refait dans ce sens..."

---
I'm wondering though, how come you can "review" submissions when parts of them correspond to what is printed on the package (overview, critics) and you don't understand that language? It's a blind "leap of faith", trusting the community would react accordingly if profanities or senseless oxen excrement were to slip by, unnoticed by the reviewers because they are written in vietnamese or klingon... Yours is not an easy job
Lernu la internacian lingvon
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
Registered: March 15, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 5,459
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
That's why there is the voting stage by people who actually have the DVD. If you did type something that didn't correpsond with the DVD, the voters would catch it and vote "no".
In terms of the overview, the screener does not have to understand the language in order to compare it to the back cover scan to see if it matches.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantwintermute115
What Would Batman Do?
Registered: May 25, 2007
United States Posts: 176
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting northbloke:
Quote:
That's why there is the voting stage by people who actually have the DVD. If you did type something that didn't correpsond with the DVD, the voters would catch it and vote "no".

Yeah, it's a nice theory. There's a fair few submissions that get no votes at all, though.

Quote:
In terms of the overview, the screener does not have to understand the language in order to compare it to the back cover scan to see if it matches.

The scans aren't high enough resolution to make out individual characters, though. One recent case was with the Monk season 1 DVD; it was originally released as a digipak, but I have a keepcase containing thinpaks. The submitted overview did not match what was on my box, and all I could tell from the scan was that the blocking was the same as I owned, and not the same as the submitted overview.

Working from the actual box, I could make a decent guess that it was at least mostly the same, but had there been minor variations, or had I been working simply from unformatted text, I don't think I'd have been able to be sure enough that the overviews matched to be confident submitting. As it was, I felt I needed to ask digipak owners to to confirm it, just in case.

I cannot imagine that trying to compare a block of unformatted plain text in a submission with the back cover scan is remotely possible. In fact, even if the scans were of a quality for the overview to be legible, it would still be incredibly difficult to confirm that they were identical.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantfalcon2099
Member Since: Dec 4, 2002
Registered: May 29, 2007
Canada Posts: 189
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting sxilderik:
Quote:
...if profanities or senseless oxen excrement were to slip by, unnoticed by the reviewers because they are written in vietnamese or klingon... Yours is not an easy job


Oxen excrement???  That's priceless.   I realize that that's just a translation thing... but it still made me chuckle.  Thanks. 
Peter

Contribution Rules
Credit Lookup Tool
DVD Profiler Wiki
 Last edited: by falcon2099
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSxilderik
Registered: November 11, 2007
France Posts: 44
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting falcon2099:
Quote:
Quoting sxilderik:
Quote:
...if profanities or senseless oxen excrement were to slip by, unnoticed by the reviewers because they are written in vietnamese or klingon... Yours is not an easy job


Oxen excrement???  That's priceless.   I realize that that's just a translation thing... but it still made me chuckle.  Thanks. 


Hm, I genuinely tried to come up with something funny and smart, quite a bold endeavour in a language that is not mine. I may now sound vain and self conscious but the hell : I'm honestly happy someone noticed it and actually found it funny. Me grinning big - Thanks 
Lernu la internacian lingvon
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next