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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Outrage (¡Dispara!) production year is listed differently in the invelos database. I’ve done a bit of research and keep getting conflicting years. Does anyone know what the correct year is?
1986: UPC 082551-733026
Unable to find documentation for this date
1993: UPC 783722-706039, EAN 9-002986-610755 and EAN 9-002986-610755
http://amazon.ca/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/dvd/B00004ZBH7/customer-reviews/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108670/
1995: UPC 807581-500802
Unable to find documentation for this date
1996:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/search/full_search.php?search=Outrage
1998: http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=5751576&extid=df00029&src1=voltage
http://www.buy.com/prod/Outrage/q/loc/322/40173428.html |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Outrage with Antonio Banderas
endcredits are hard to read
(c)1993 - By? Metro - Film SRL - ?????? Roma
EAN 8715664002018 changed the profile accordingly | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Production Year in DVDP is actually the year of the theatrical release, and not the year it was produced (the name Production Year for this field is wrong and needs fixing). Copyright year does not necessarily coïncide with the theatrical release year either. This film was released in its native Spain on October 1st 1993 (according to both Wikipedia and IMDb). The BFI lists 1993 as the year of release as well. Hence it has to be 1993. A site like rottentomatoes will have used the year it was released in the US, which in this case is irrelevant as it's not a US film. Hope this helps, Kathy! | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Production Year is actually the year of the theatrical release, and not the year it was produced (the name Production Year for this field is wrong and needs fixing). Copyright year does not necessarily coïncide with the theatrical release year either. Correct! A few users deliberately ignore this and keep using copyright year (because it's easier in that you don't have to rely on external sources) - note that these are usually the people who often accuse others of breaking the rules.  Therefore I'm always glad to see this pointed out. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | As I've been told on previous occasions so many times (not that I ever claimed otherwise, mind you): a poll doesn't equal a rule. As of yet, the rule is to use the year of the theatrical release. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | From the Contribution Rules:
Production Year
Enter the year of the original theatrical release. For films that have been updated (e.g., a Special Edition or Directors Cut) use the year of the original release, not the year that the re-release was “made” or released.
VERY clear, I would say. All that needs changing is the label of the field, because "Production Year" will confuse people. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken could change the rules offcourse. As the copywright year is always on the credits and is easy verifyable. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Of course he could, but that's irrelevant for the answer to Kathy's question and belongs in the Contribution Rules Committee rather than this forum anyway. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for all the help! Sometimes the more I read the rules and forums...the more confused I get!  One thing I know for sure...any film whose credits are not written in English goes to the end of my contribution list! I'm afraid I've spent far too much time just translating everything!  |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 820 |
| | Posted: | | | | Kathy, Released in USA on video April 9, 1996 Shown at MIFED in Milan October 24-29, 1993. Shown at Venice Film Festival (in competition) August 31 - September 11, 1993. 1993 appears to be the year it was released. See: TCMDB powered by AFI here. I have looked at BFI, IMDB et al and cannot find anything to support there claim of an earlier release on 1 October 1993. The fact that it was shown a a film festival doesn't mean it was released then BTW. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | In this case, the only relevant date is the date it was released in Spain, NOT the US release date. To find additional evidence for the Spanish release date, you'd have to consult Spanish sites. Unfortunately, I don't speak Spanish.
Not sure what your TCMDB link is supposed to prove. Not sure why AFI would be more reliable than BFI either. |
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